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Author Topic: Truck Cab Seat Belt Mounts: Prt No's: 395240 & 395241  (Read 3669 times)
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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2019, 08:08:37 AM »

I’m up for a set too please
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2019, 08:36:47 AM »

... Ref your 3 vertical fasteners at the bottom.

Did you just drill out the rivets in these positions and enlarge the holes?

I need to clarify that all truck cabs have the rivets in these positions.

Anyone else have any photos?

I started to take photos when you started the project to create replacements. What I came to realise was that my installation was slightly different side to side, and both were slightly different to any variation I had earlier found in the parts book (copied into an earlier thread).
So, I didn't bother posting my detailed photos, because I couldn't seriously claim my installation was a good example to follow.

However, I did wonder about the rivets, or lack of them, in Gibbo's photos.
Not merely the three in the front face that you mention, but also the ones visible externally (7 per side in my case).
Mine may be a factory variation, as all these rivets are the Mondel type, requiring a setting tool that is more robust than normally found in a DIY workshop.

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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2019, 09:04:51 AM »

Yes, just removed the existing rivets so no additional holes required.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2019, 09:31:22 AM »

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Ian59, Gosney83, Suzanne.

I've added you to the list.  cheers_man
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2019, 10:40:11 AM »

In answer to David’s post, the external rivets are not touched and are still in place.
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2019, 02:30:31 PM »

A bit more progress today. I've had to include some dimensional changes. As it would appears there is some variation in the position of the 3 rivets at the bottom of the truck cab.

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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2019, 10:49:49 AM »

Hello James,

I own two series 2A truck cabs, one diesel from November 1961 and the other a 1968 petrol. The 1961 had the brackets fitted whilst the 1968 had an angle bracket fitted - I have thrown this away.

I read the posts with great interest as I have just spent the last couple of days looking at how to fabricate suitable brackets. I would definitely like to have a pair of your brackets once they are available particularly as they will be stronger than the originals.(2mm thick 80x40 RHS vs 3mm)

I have removed the brackets from the 1961 vehicle and have installed them in the 1968 vehicle as this is the one I am currently using. The brackets were originally fixed as shown in the photos from Gibbo with three bolts on the bottom vertical side, but I don't know if the bracket was factory fitted or an after market fixture. However the same holes were used for both the solid rivets and the bolts. I measured the position of these holes on both my land rovers and give or take a millimetre or two the holes are in the same place.

(When I refitted the bracket in the 1968 vehicle I did not remove the solid rivets but drilled additional holes; I will remove these rivets once I receive a small grinding stone for a die grinder to first grind the rivet heads flat.)

I will try an upload some photos later.

The only difficulties I encountered in re-fitting the brackets were:

top brackets
I had to grind one of the triangular sides on one of the top brackets to avoid the solid rivet; one of the photos from Gibbo shows this top rivet. 

bracket body
On one of the brackets I had to elongate the hole in the bottom fixing plate to enable this to fit over the existing bolt to the body work
I had to use clamps to pull the bracket body in behind the lip on the vertical aluminium door body work
I had some difficulty aligning the bolt holes in the top bracket and the bracket body, however I eventually managed.

Other than that it was straightforward.


Hopefully this is of some interest to you. I'll try and add some photos later but as I am new to the forum I am not sure how to do it yet.

Regards,

James.

 



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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2019, 09:44:33 PM »

Hi Gibbo,

Ref: 395241.

Can you confirm that the upper holes are slotted on your originals?

Even better if you have a picture!

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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2019, 08:02:02 PM »

Yes, they are slotted
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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2019, 10:02:22 PM »

The holes on the top of hte bracket are slotted. That image shows what looks like studs fitted to 395241, which is the seperate smaller bracket.

I currently have these are slotted holes, so not to make the part handed, so the end user can get fixings through.
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2019, 10:18:10 PM »

The top brackets 395246 do have studs in them and are both the same, so not handed.
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2019, 11:21:26 AM »

OK. Thanks. Good to know.

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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2019, 07:47:22 PM »

I have been looking for these for years. After a short break not trawling Ebay, I just missed a set that went for £50!
I am desperate for a pair and will pay better for some.
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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2019, 11:34:07 PM »

Hi Dave,

Understood. I will add you to the list.

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James
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2019, 01:48:20 PM »

Some Friday morning prototyping!

Introducing:

HNJ395241 - Land Rover Series Truck Cab Seat Belt Bracket - LH

HNJ395240 - Land Rover Series Truck Cab Seat Belt Bracket - RH

HNJ395246 - Land Rover Series Truck Cab - Upper Bracket

Notes: The finished product will be passivated after assembly. And we will weld 'all round' the semi circular cutout where the inner plate joins.

This will be a small production run, so please get in touch if you would like to added to the list!
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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2019, 04:33:46 AM »

A pair for me as well please.
Thanks.

Can you update my order for a second set.

Thanks.
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2019, 04:34:48 PM »

Please add me to the list for a set please.

Many thanks.
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« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2019, 12:26:58 PM »

Hi all,

Fitment of the prototype is now complete, and bar a few minor tweaks I am happy with it.    Sunny

I am however concerned that my spare truckcab might experienced some damage in the past? Or are they all like this??

I refer to the curling up of the top edges, which the truck cab roof would sit. There is very little flex here to level them off, and I wonder if with the roof on that the bolts would pull this down flat/level.

In any case, I would be extremely grateful if people could post pictures of their truck cabs in the same area, so that I can see if theres also curl up on this edge.

It might be nothing to worry about, but if they are all like this, then I will need to amend some of slotted holes to allow for this.

I am also toying with the idea of removing the slotted holes on the vertical part of the assembly, as the rivet locations tend to vary slightly, meaning that users could drill their own holes through my bracket on assembly.

Looking forward to some truck cab pictures!  wine

Thanks

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« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2019, 07:33:09 PM »

Hi James. This is a picture of my truck cab
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« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2019, 07:34:18 PM »

Other side
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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2019, 12:28:27 AM »

Thanks.

Does anyone else have any pictures?

Upon closer inspection today I can confirm that this truck cab is not damaged. With everything off you can't flatten the upper lip because it's riveted to the galvanised corner capping on the inside. In my case, the reason they 'curl' up is because the inner corner plates on both sides have been riveted in slightly too high, which means the upper curve is unable to come down flush.

Keen to see what others look like before going any further.

Good old Land Rover!  laugh

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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2019, 06:03:32 PM »

I have a spare truck cab here which you're welcome to borrow.
Here are some pictures

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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2019, 07:30:04 PM »

The edges also curl up on both sides of my truck cab - always been like that...just normal manufacturing tolerances I expect!
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« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2019, 07:35:12 PM »

Thanks all!!!  respect wine

So, I'm not loosing my marbles.

I can work with this. I just had to be sure that my truck cab isn't a special case.

One of things I love about this forum is how helpful people can be.  Banana

I best finalise the design then and press on!
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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2019, 04:58:30 PM »

Hi all,

A quick update.

The design is now frozen, and we will shortly be commencing manufacture.

A caveat to these is that the end user 'may' be required to do a bit drilling on assembly.

I'm happy with the current hole pattern, but who knows how the pattern has varied at Land Rover over the production period.

I will let you know when they are due in stock!  wine

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2019, 11:27:26 AM »

Excellent, look forward to getting my set
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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2019, 02:20:35 PM »

If your production run is not yet fixed in quantity then I would like a set please.

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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2019, 03:37:00 PM »

Hi all,

Just to let you know that these are now underway, and are due off the prodution line mid/late September.

As soon as they are avaiable to buy I shall post here.

Rest assured I have enough to supply everyone who has expressed interest, and of course some extra.

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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2019, 11:14:18 PM »

I think this project is brilliant. I am really looking forward to getting my set. Unless you can find a later truck cab with the brackets built in, there are few options to arrange secure and comfortable belts. Well done.
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« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2019, 05:57:12 PM »

These are now available.

See thread on new forum.

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