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Graeme

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Tub / Grill Badges
« on: June 19, 2022, 12:06:21 AM »

I've got two patterns of badge on my truck. 

The rear  on on the tub, which is riveted on and presumably has been there from birth, is cast alloy with a sandy texture in the lands.

The grille badge I bought online and is pressed alloy with smooth lands.

Anyone got any ideas on the story behind the two types of badge.

The truck is New Zealand assembled and has a few locally sourced components, glass and I gather upholstery, so could have done badges locally too, or are they from different models?
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2022, 01:16:43 AM »

Is the length and width identical ? Due to shrinkage, reproduction cast badges are usually a fraction smaller.
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2022, 11:16:10 AM »

Are you sure that the rear badge is cast as it doesn't look it is,looks like a original presed one from photos.  :tiphat
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2022, 11:24:51 AM »

That was my thought too.
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2022, 06:25:53 PM »

If it is indeed cast, and from the shape, it looks like from from a pre 1953 80".

But looking again, I now don't think it is.... :coffee.
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2022, 11:05:05 PM »

Are you sure that the rear badge is cast as it doesn't look it is,looks like a original presed one from photos.  :tiphat


The rear one has a texture, like sand casting in the area between the raised lettering, which makes me think it's cast.  The front one is definitely pressed, and smooth between the lettering.
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2022, 08:35:41 AM »

I've found these badges to be quite variable over the years, some have more textured background and some are almost smooth.
I think it simply depends what company made them, how old the press tool was, how hard the sheet of material was that day etc.

Both of yours look original to me.

Here is an earlier version both from the same vehicle. One pretty heavily embossed, one almost smooth.

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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2022, 03:00:42 PM »

I am replacing my plastic SIII front grille with a metal maltese cross one. Does anyone have measurements for the location of the badge holes or do I drill wherever looks best? Also, should I use self-tapping screws or is there a better alternative?

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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2022, 04:30:30 PM »

Here's what I have ....



Over here Maltese Cross grilles cost the earth and owners should make them secure.
I use 2BA Allen Cap Head screws, makes them a little harder to casually remove.
The fixed nuts were already there when I got the vehicle. You can always use rivnuts.

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I have a homemade tool from a bit of 3.5mm Allen key held in an old radio knob (which lives in the cab).
You can also add a turnbuckle catch and padlock to protect the grille and unauthorised people opening the bonnet.
I wouldn't use self-tappers for the theft reasons, but otherwise why not ???
(The rear badge can be riveted in place. Birmingham badges are well sort after and fetch 4 to 5 times the price of the later Solihull version, so should be firmly secured.)



The grille rests on 2 brackets fixed to the front panel.
If yours doesn't have these support brackets you can easily make them from some steel plate.





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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2022, 05:59:22 PM »

is that a padlock for the grille, not even for the bonnet? :RHD

the grilles on the picture also look original to me, the cast ones are usually very easy to spot and are smaller overall from shrinkage, plus in my opinion, they never look correct ???

and speaking of badges to protect, the station wagon ones even more so, i had 2 of mine go walk about, front and back, that was costly
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2022, 06:10:52 PM »

is that a padlock for the grille, not even for the bonnet? :RHD


Ah ha ... That is a "temporary" bonnet without the catch for the turnbuckle whilst I get the Panda camper running again.

The proper Panda camper bonnet has the catch. The padlock secures both the bonnet and the grille.

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I don't think it's a good idea to drive with the bonnet padlocked - you might want to get in there quick - e.g. to disconnect the battery, etc.
You don't want to be fumbling around for the key in a panic situation  :shakeinghead

I just use the padlock at shows or when I'm parked up for any length of time in a "dodgey" area.

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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2022, 06:20:12 PM »

Ah ha ... That is a "temporary" bonnet without the catch for the turnbuckle whilst I get the Panda camper running again.

The proper Panda camper bonnet has the catch. The padlock secures both the bonnet and the grille.

Note:
I don't think it's a good idea to drive with the bonnet padlocked - you might want to get in there quick - e.g. to disconnect the battery, etc.
You don't want to be fumbling around for the key in a panic situation  :shakeinghead

I just use the padlock at shows or when I'm parked up for any length of time in a "dodgey" area.

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its sad that its gotten to this case really, even more so for maltese cross grilles, my station wagon badges were riveted to the rear tub and front wing, not on the grille as it had an engine stop button located there, taking the place of the badges. i luckily found a bonnet lock for a dished station wagon bonnet as well, which i will be fitting.

good idea for not putting on when driving as well, never know, saves the paint damage from it swinging around as well :RHD
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2022, 06:39:16 PM »

Thanks Wittsend! That was exactly what I needed.
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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2022, 07:23:59 PM »

... good idea for not putting on when driving as well, never know, saves the paint damage from it swinging around as well :RHD

What you do there is to cut a section of old bike inner tube and slip it over the body of the lock.
You can use the same trick on the fuel cap padlock.


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Re: Tub / Grill Badges
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2022, 07:05:34 PM »

Thanks Wittsend! That was exactly what I needed.

Got the badge and grill mounted using your measurements Alan. Thanks!
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