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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2020, 01:57:55 PM »

Most if not all coal fired power stations now burn wood chip biomass i believe its called. There is a lot of green or wet wood going in to them but we cant complain the government make money from us all as we have to pay the vat on your fuel bill.

Ho ho ho

Guess where they get the wood chips from ???

Canada - in ships that burn the dirtiest of all fuels ....  :thud
You couldn't make it up!

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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2020, 01:58:52 PM »

Most if not all coal fired power stations now burn wood chip biomass i believe its called.
Mostly sourced in N America, I believe.

Drat, beaten to it.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2020, 02:06:26 PM »

Will the ban affect anyone on here ?

These owners will be ....

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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2020, 02:10:54 PM »

It's a real shame.

Ferrybridge Multifuel is built over 300 years+ supply of coal  :shakeinghead

Coal can be burnt with the only pollution being water vapour and heat, the ash can be used in thermal building blocks, we have the technology.


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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2020, 02:17:30 PM »

Don't forget it is the SALE not the use that is to be banned

PM2.5 is pretty nasty stuff. Does a lot more harm than PM10, so if there is more awareness and folk make sure they have dry seasoned wood and / or smokeless rather than straight coal, it can only be a good thing

I fell trees in the spring - before nesting season - for use in the winter after - about 6 months "seasoning".
Some wood can be burned "green" - rowan and ash srping to mind, but it's always best to be dry
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2020, 03:07:06 PM »

....plenty of ash die back around here so no shortage of ash for the time being...mores the pity

Ash green..is fit for a Queen
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2020, 03:58:30 PM »

I get my wood by working with a local coppicing group and aim to store it two seasons before use then bring it into the house for the last week or two before burning.
There's an annual rotation of old wood out of the woodshed, newest to the back, old wood back on top, after which you are warm enough not to need a fire.
The wood dries faster if it's split before storing, more exercise!
Our sweep said recently it should be down to 15% moisture as measured with a moisture meter, which is pushing it for air dried.
Kiln dried £££s
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2020, 04:09:26 PM »

It's a real shame.

Ferrybridge Multifuel is built over 300 years+ supply of coal  :shakeinghead

Coal can be burnt with the only pollution being water vapour and heat, the ash can be used in thermal building blocks, we have the technology.


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And yet importing wood pellets to Ferrybridge from half way round the world by ship and train is somehow seen as "green"  :stars
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2020, 04:22:03 PM »

Hi,

Maybe I should apply for Planning Permission to build a garage sized LOGGIA?

As for VAT, Barbara used to work in C&E, in the days when it was called PURCHASE TAX. She used to wear children's clothing because they were PT exempt. Also exempt were "bog" rolls, and "STs".

I saw in the ROSPA magazine that car safety belts were PT exempt. I bet they are not VAT exempt. ???

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2020, 04:41:16 PM »

I am fortunate in being supplied fridge sized sacks of kiln dried Norwegian wood....(isn't it good!)
I'm surprised that the moisture content is as high as it is, (15-20%) and astonished that newly felled green and mossy stuff can be 50%  :agh.....that's like a drink on a stick!
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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2020, 04:42:31 PM »

.... in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.

Benjamin Franklin, 1789

Safety equipment is VAT exempt.

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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2020, 04:44:12 PM »

Does that include Land Rover bumpers  ???
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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2020, 04:51:48 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2020, 05:23:16 PM »

These owners will be ....
Ahh,  so nips in the bud any idea of cheap alternative ways to run vehicles "off grid"  :shakeinghead
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2020, 05:49:58 PM »

Whilst we are on this OT subject, I have a question. Our log burner is alight all winter (October to May). We use good wood all day and evening. But to keep it in at night we use a coal derived product called Wildfire. So presumably we will be unable to buy this next year.
Is there a good/cheap alternative that will still be for sale, or should I buy 25 tonns of the old stuff this summer.
What do you folk use at night ?
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