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Marmite Defender
« on: September 10, 2019, 12:12:46 PM »

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 12:20:44 PM »

It's not too shabby , could have been a lot worse.

Whether it's a hit or not will depend on pricing, may be a victim of style over substance in the future, I noticed that in all the photos there isn't one taken through the back door of the load area, which is what the old Defender was used for, carrying equipment.

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 12:21:40 PM »

The original Land Rover was just a stop gap for the Rover Car Company before it went back to making luxury cars - it took them 70 years to do so that's all. Beyond the hype, is anyone really excited about this foreign built car? I have watched (some of) Richard Hammond's YouTube video with the great long list of things to go wrong with it and leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere!

Would anyone sell their proper Land Rover to buy one of these to work on a farm? All the farm ones round here are basic 'van' types, when I see a genuine 'utility' version, I might look a bit closer!

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 12:42:55 PM »

Only time will tell if its any good.  Looks like a reimagining of bits of nods to the past, like fiat 500 and mini.  But when put along side each other they bear no resembalnce.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 12:55:38 PM »

I watched the live stream this morning and the mocked up Wilks Bros commercial 90 above was the best looking one they showed.

I'm afraid that I fall into the 'don't like it' camp; it's too rounded off or bulbous at the front to look like a Defender. Although it has some styling cues from old there is a lot of current design language in it, which will date and will not be timeless. Lots of little 'flourishes' like the superfluous rear lights and colour palette.

It looks expensive compared to competition and from other JLR models for the spec. Fuel consumption looks high.

I prefer the appearance of the base 90 on steelies and look forward to seeing one in the flesh. Not convinced that I will be spending £40,290 plus options on one though.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 01:02:08 PM »

I'm in the "don't like it" camp too. Not made in Solihull, fake chequerplate, stupid "scowling eyes" headlights... the list goes on  :-X
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 01:15:15 PM »

It looks OK to me, then again I don't get hung up on the Defender name, the same as I don't with the Mini - which I've got, if the vehicle suites your needs then buy it otherwise look away. I would have considered it if the price was better placed as I'm looking for something that will tow, so I   might go back to my previous model which was a Countryman ALL4 Cooper S as the towing capacity has increased significantly since they dropped the 2L turbo in it.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 01:25:43 PM »

I won't be putting my hand in my wallet for this  :shakeinghead



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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2019, 01:47:53 PM »

I'm in the "don't like it" camp too. Not made in Solihull, fake chequerplate, stupid "scowling eyes" headlights... the list goes on  :-X

I am also in the "don't like it" camp.
I would be looking at a Volvo XC 40/60/90 before one of these, but then I do not need the full blown off-road capabilities that this thing has.  :coffee
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2019, 02:13:18 PM »

No way is that a "utility" vehicle. Does the designer on the broadcast actually believe his own hype?

85 ecu's. What could possibly go wrong  ???

Awaiting Projekt Grenadier with interest.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2019, 02:35:19 PM »

I am also in the don't like camp on looks and price, looks like a mini on steroids.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2019, 02:51:09 PM »

I don't like it.

Personally - I think part of the angst against it is that they named it "Defender".  It might of been better received if they had chosen another name, such as "Adventurer".  When I think of a "Defender" I think of something a bit more rugged looking; something that Lara Croft or James Bond would drive.  I guess this is something they would drive if picking up their kids from soccer practice.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2019, 02:54:01 PM »

I don't like it.

Personally - I think part of the angst against it is that they named it "Defender".  It might of been better received if they had chosen another name, such as "Adventurer".  When I think of a "Defender" I think of something a bit more rugged looking; something that Lara Croft or James Bond would drive.  I guess this is something they would drive if picking up their kids from soccer practice.
James Bond has already driven it  :-X :-X

I am also in the don't like camp on looks and price, looks like a mini on steroids.
Yep like the Countryman  :tiphat I can get a JCW Countryman ALL4 Auto (310 BHP) for £8K less than the starting price of the Defender.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2019, 02:58:57 PM »

James Bond has already driven it  :-X :-X
Yep like the Countryman  :tiphat I can get a JCW Countryman ALL4 Auto (310 BHP) for £8K less than the starting price of the Defender.

Was he picking up the kids from soccer practice or stopping by the local Starbucks?   :-X :-X :-X

I haven't seen a starting price yet, but haven't really looked.  What is it starting at?
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 03:02:47 PM »

Was he picking up the kids from soccer practice or stopping by the local Starbucks?   :-X :-X :-X

I haven't seen a starting price yet, but haven't really looked.  What is it starting at?
On location filming the new Bond film - typical spy shots. ;)

Starting price for the basic 90 size (3 door) just over £40K around $50K and the 110 is a lot more.
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