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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2019, 12:11:07 PM »

I would have one  :cool
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2019, 12:47:22 PM »

It’s not bad looking.
It’s a Defender the same way the current Mini’s and Fiat 500’s carry their names. I’m sure they’ll sell more of the “new” Defender than the “Classic” Defender.

Back corners do remind me of a 1990’s Vitara though.  :-X

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2019, 12:57:09 PM »

Not sure it's for me but then I said the same about the P-38 Range Rover and ended up buying one of those 10 years after the launch.....

Need a good Camel Trophy now to prove they are up to the job.

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2019, 01:07:52 PM »

It’s not for me, but then we are all different and JLR would not make it without a market.

I have no desire to own one, but then I have no desire to own a new Range Rover or discovery either, plenty of others do.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2019, 01:29:04 PM »

 :ditto
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2019, 01:31:46 PM »

I prefer this model - price is OK.
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« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2019, 02:23:16 PM »

It looks OK to me, then again I don't get hung up on the Defender name, the same as I don't with the Mini - which I've got, if the vehicle suites your needs then buy it otherwise look away. I would have considered it if the price was better placed as I'm looking for something that will tow, so I   might go back to my previous model which was a Countryman ALL4 Cooper S as the towing capacity has increased significantly since they dropped the 2L turbo in it.

Doesnt the countryman share freelander 2 bits and platform?

Dodge nitro resemblance is a good shout, and how well did they sell/when did you last see one.

The new defender is pitched at a new market, the men who dont wear socks with shoes and have paint on trousers.  They have money or finance to burn.

The p38 went too far from the orignal range rover and the model that followed it rowed back and was better for it.

I suspect the new defender will have a platform that will be around for a good while and is future proofed but will have make overs to address the criticism and trades on its heritage. 

I cannot at this point visualise one with it back axle on the stops dragging a double or triple axle ifor trailer to market.

The base model will sell most due to its price and those who resell will hoover these up and turn them into more executive models for those who want champagne motor at lemonade money.

Bond will drive or wear what he is given or paid to.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2019, 02:54:01 PM »

Doesnt the countryman share freelander 2 bits and platform?
BMW 1 series is the platform - not sure there would be a connection with Land Rover.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2019, 08:11:23 PM »

Having mulled it over, I have concluded that I don't quite get it.

From its inception the Discovery was always the comfortable, passenger-orientated vehicle while the Defender was the utility vehicle.

This seems to have the target market of the Discovery while still pretending to have utility credentials, however the load space looks to be wrong. The back of an 88" is not enormous, but it is big enough to carry stuff (a few sheep?) and this carried over to the Defender. However, I note that none of the pictures really show the load space and if you look at the side view the door is longer than the space behind, indicating that actually it is very small. The LWB may be a bit better but I doubt it with a second row of seats, which essentially makes it more like a car boot than a true carrying space. If this is correct then it is competing directly with other SUVs or for the SWB not even that as it won't serve as the family vehicle. I therefore don't see where it is targetting, except the 'site foreman' or 'site engineer' market which is a bit small I would have thought to achieve the market penetration necessary.

I also happen to think that the side-on view with the door longer than the rear space is rather ugly, but each to their own.

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2019, 08:38:00 PM »

No manual gearbox option it would appear. I suppose that would conflict with the pop up middle seat.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2019, 11:33:55 PM »

It's not a Defender it's an Offender.
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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2019, 04:32:19 AM »

We only have a choice of the 4 or 6 petrol engines. I got my build up to $54k.

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Re: Marmite Defender
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2019, 04:44:58 AM »

Hi,

Have Rovers ever made a bad Range Rover or Land Rover? Have they ever made a bad car (behind the original radiator badge (ignore their adopted cousins).

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« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2019, 08:56:29 AM »

We only have a choice of the 4 or 6 petrol engines. I got my build up to $54k.

My 110 is now at £100,002 ( $123,227) - a bargain really - I just need to decide if I can live with out the Black bonnet decal for £150 and the union jack dust caps for £35....
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« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2019, 09:51:36 AM »

Hi Nomish,

If it says 110 on the front, don't confuse potential purchasers ... ask £110,000.

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PS I can remember when $1 was worth five shillings (£0.25) ... or will our censors delete such a political statement.

PPS. Why isn't the a smiley of a "toe being dipped in the water?"
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