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Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« on: December 05, 2020, 03:42:06 PM »

Hi folks,

I’m busy restoring a 1970 88” S2a, it was in a previous life a Scottish Coastguard vehicle. The colours underneath and a partial build card found under the seat possibly confirm this.

Does anyone know how I could find out what station(s) it was based at?

I’ve tried getting info from the DVLA but they won’t help.  ???

Thanks,

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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2020, 05:07:10 PM »

Her Majesties Coast Guard is UK wide rather than there being a separate one in Scotland.
It is now part of the Maritime and Coastguard Agency.
You could try contacting the MCA to see if they have anything in their archive.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/maritime-and-coastguard-agency

Do you know the original registration of the Land Rover?
It gives the area of the country and some registration indexes were reserved for certain parts of Government.
So that would provide a clue.
If you don't want to put the full registration up on here for whatever reason
Tell me the letters in it and I'll look it up.

You could also contact British Motor Museum at Gaydon Archive where the surviving Land Rover records are
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive
Sometimes where the Land Rover was despatched to is in the record.


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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2020, 03:09:13 PM »

Her Majesties Coast Guard is UK wide rather than there being a separate one in Scotland.
It is now part of the Maritime and Coastguard Agency.
You could try contacting the MCA to see if they have anything in their archive.
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/maritime-and-coastguard-agency

Do you know the original registration of the Land Rover?
It gives the area of the country and some registration indexes were reserved for certain parts of Government.
So that would provide a clue.
If you don't want to put the full registration up on here for whatever reason
Tell me the letters in it and I'll look it up.

You could also contact British Motor Museum at Gaydon Archive where the surviving Land Rover records are
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive
Sometimes where the Land Rover was despatched to is in the record.


 :photos

Thanks for the info.

I have Yellow paint on the roof and bonnet under various layers.
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2020, 04:27:23 PM »

That's a West Ham, London registration.
It was not a registration series reserved for HM Government.
(But that's not to say it couldn't be ex Coast Guard as all sort of odd things happened).

Where does the Scotland connection come in?
Was it old documentation?

Do you know about the DVLA V888 vehicle enquiry ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v888-request-by-an-individual-for-information-about-a-vehicle
Or was that when the DVLA wouldn't help?
They have become very hit and miss on what they will provide under the scheme.
Seems to be at the whim of each individual DVLA operative what information they will or won't provide.
If so I suggest that you have another go and make it clear you are only interested in the History of your car
and do not want to know names or address of previous owners.
Some people have had success that way.

The build card mentions bonnet mounted spare and lock and a plain bonnet lock so that Deluxe bonnet might not be the original.
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2020, 07:13:04 PM »

I see it had fixed side windows on the hard top, the government departments didn't have to pay the  Purchase tax  that the rest of us would have had to  at the time !
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2020, 07:27:54 PM »

That's a West Ham, London registration.
It was not a registration series reserved for HM Government.
(But that's not to say it couldn't be ex Coast Guard as all sort of odd things happened).

Where does the Scotland connection come in?
Was it old documentation?

Do you know about the DVLA V888 vehicle enquiry ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/v888-request-by-an-individual-for-information-about-a-vehicle
Or was that when the DVLA wouldn't help?
They have become very hit and miss on what they will provide under the scheme.
Seems to be at the whim of each individual DVLA operative what information they will or won't provide.
If so I suggest that you have another go and make it clear you are only interested in the History of your car
and do not want to know names or address of previous owners.
Some people have had success that way.

The build card mentions bonnet mounted spare and lock and a plain bonnet lock so that Deluxe bonnet might not be the original.

The V888 got sent back with nothing and the postal order which I can’t cash in. I asked for info as part of a historical restoration.

I know the PO (from Aberdeenshire), his wife’s Dad apparently bought it from the Scottish Coast Guard up in the Elgin area of Scotland.

So do you think the Bonnet should be a Razor?
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2020, 07:34:33 PM »

It certainly looks like a coastguard vehicle, they usually had fixed side windows. Odd that the bonnet would be yellow though. I doubt the bonnet would be a razor type, especially considering the matching paint.
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2020, 07:35:44 PM »

As an ex Post Office worker I can tell you that you can definitely cash the Postal Order in even if it's out of date date , if you need advice PM me.
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2020, 07:39:24 PM »

A quick google shows some did indeed have yellow bonnets.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2020, 08:08:00 PM »

As an ex Post Office worker I can tell you that you can definitely cash the Postal Order in even if it's out of date date , if you need advice PM me.

Even if it’s made out to the DVLA?
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2020, 08:26:57 PM »

The V888 got sent back with nothing and the postal order which I can’t cash in. I asked for info as part of a historical restoration.

I know the PO (from Aberdeenshire), his wife’s Dad apparently bought it from the Scottish Coast Guard up in the Elgin area of Scotland.

So do you think the Bonnet should be a Razor?

As I said, it is the luck of the draw with V888 since the DVLA discovered GPDR as an excuse for not doing their job.

There was a major Coast Guard location at Elgin, now closed.
 
Bonnet; I was going on the basis of what the build card shows
"E.1107 Whl Carrier & Lock Pilr on Bont
E.1119 Lock for Plain Bonnet"
and that your photo shows a De-lux bonnet without a spare carrier or lock.
Can you find evidence on the bonnet of a spare carrier ?

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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2020, 08:47:52 PM »

Yes I saw that too. The other vehicles in the photos all have dished bonnets with spare wheel mounts. I think a plain bonnet means an undished bonnet. I have a plain deluxe bonnet on my 109" and I don't recall it being mentioned on the build card. The fact the one fitted is the right colour suggests it could be original. 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2020, 08:50:04 PM »

In the Ludvigen Library series book on Land Rover there is a picture of EAN 745J on exercise, it has a plain (razor edge) bonnet fitted with the spare wheel mount but no wheel attached. The bonnet is body colour.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2020, 08:55:20 PM »

As I said, it is the luck of the draw with V888 since the DVLA discovered GPDR as an excuse for not doing their job.

There was a major Coast Guard location at Elgin, now closed.
 
Bonnet; I was going on the basis of what the build card shows
"E.1107 Whl Carrier & Lock Pilr on Bont
E.1119 Lock for Plain Bonnet"
and that your photo shows a De-lux bonnet without a spare carrier or lock.
Can you find evidence on the bonnet of a spare carrier ?

The bonnet on the vehicle has no evidence of a spare wheel carrier. So I assume it has been changed at some point.
As I said, it is the luck of the draw with V888 since the DVLA discovered GPDR as an excuse for not doing their job.

There was a major Coast Guard location at Elgin, now closed.
 
Bonnet; I was going on the basis of what the build card shows
"E.1107 Whl Carrier & Lock Pilr on Bont
E.1119 Lock for Plain Bonnet"
and that your photo shows a De-lux bonnet without a spare carrier or lock.
Can you find evidence on the bonnet of a spare carrier ?


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Re: Ex Scottish Coast Guard 88”?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2020, 08:57:31 PM »

In the Ludvigen Library series book on Land Rover there is a picture of EAN 745J on exercise, it has a plain (radar edge) bonnet fitted with the spare wheel mount but no wheel attached. The bonnet is body colour.

Brilliant, what book?
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