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[Grandadrob]

Sorry. 658...

[Herald1360]

Wilson Worsdell's Class P3 (LNER J27) was a development of the NER J26 class. Eighty J27s were built between 1906 and 1909 by a number of suppliers, including Darlington Works. Twelve years later, a batch of twenty five J27s were built with superheaters and piston valves, followed by a final order of ten placed in December 1922 and built by the LNER at Darlington in 1923.

Post-war, the J27s stopped hauling goods trains but they continued to haul heavy mineral trains. Withdrawals began in March 1959, but in June 1966 thirty six were still putting in hard work hauling coal in County Durham and South Northumberland. The final J27s were withdrawn from the Blyth area where they operated the short trip workings between the nearby coalfield and shipping staithes. The last four in service, Nos 65811/79/82 and 84 were withdrawn in September 1967.

 

So the Rail Rover could have been either S2 or 2A 

All this info about the J27 (an 0-6-0) and the little train is being pulled by a 4-4-0 

[22900013A]

Is the fact that it's 'lights in wings' relevant or a red herring?

Alec

It's a conversion, you can just about see the side lights and indicators in the normal position, so its basically a home-brew bugeye.

Some conversions did see a headlamp move -aircon and broom wade air compressor come to mind.

[Daisythelandy]

I was - I spotted loads of trains.

Still have my Ian Allan book.

If I were PM I'd bring back steam trains and have the heritage railways run them - the trains would then be on time, with decent and polite staff, with clean carriages and decent (Yorkshire) tea from the buffet.



 

And I thought Alan was a gricer but not one number is underlined in his book.... tut, tut.

How's the railway coming on Allan, there are a few of us modellers on this forum and I meet a couple at railway shows. Me, I work in EM gauge.

Wharfeside layout under construction, most of the track is handbuilt from componants

[Wittsend]

Sadly - my parents threw out my train spotting books when I left home 

My Ian Allan book is a re-print.

My loft train set is on hold.
I want to move the water tanks round to give me better access and a larger space to work in...

It's all work in progress.

Chuff chuff

[edd]

That's a new one to me.  The surviving rail rover is 6064UE and was the one that originally had the raising and lowering rail gear - like modern ones.  It was at Eastnor as the game keepers truck for quite a few years.

Landrover did build another two rail rovers that just had railway wheels fitted (like this one).  This could be one of those two or another one that was built by Landrover or someone else.

There is also a narrow gauge rail rover around that has complete new sub frames.

[chipbury]

There is one surviving J27 owned by the North Eastern Locomotive Preservation Group

https://nelpg.org.uk/index.php

A good website to get lost in for an hour or so!

[Ray Clayton]

Hi

Had to rip all mine down around 7 years ago, as we had a new roof on the house.
It had 26' straight and 10' wide.
I have started again late last year and have around 16' x 10 of the base board laid, and i am going DCC this time round, i did try it in the 10 x 8 shed, but it was not the same.
Still it give's me something else to do, along with putting the Fordson back together as well.

 

[Calum]

And I thought Alan was a gricer but not one number is underlined in his book.... tut, tut.

How's the railway coming on Allan, there are a few of us modellers on this forum and I meet a couple at railway shows. Me, I work in EM gauge.

Wharfeside layout under construction, most of the track is handbuilt from componants

Crab-tastic!

[Cedric]

So if I summarise correctly, it’s a 4 cylinder pre-1966 II or IIA, with a slim chance of being one of a pair of long lost factory conversions. But we don’t think it’s still around.

Interesting reading though. Thanks for your replies

[22900013A]

There were no six cylinder landrovers in 1966 anyway, my comment about fuel fillers was because of the suggestion they can be used to date a vehicle - this would only be the case on later vehicles and series 3s.

[JPH]

There used to be a Railrover  near Gloucester some years ago as the owner came and bought some spares off me.    This would have been in the days of the old forum, so not sure it he has made it here and seen this thread...............

[Cedric]

There were no six cylinder landrovers in 1966 anyway, my comment about fuel fillers was because of the suggestion they can be used to date a vehicle - this would only be the case on later vehicles and series 3s.

I see. Every day's a school day.

I do wonder what happened to it. If the Blyth internal working rail area reduced to the point that a rail-only Rover was no longer appropriate, or if it had a prang or was worn out, can you see it being re-wheeled and put back on the road? Maybe, but without the VRN to check on I doubt we'll ever know. Unless we get a specific memory from a lurking member...

If you look up the circumstances of the Britannia Bridge fire in 1970, there are some photos of another 109 Railrover, which I think was used as PWay access, and later, judging by the state of its wings, a shunting engine!

[Ray Clayton]

There were no six cylinder landrovers in 1966 anyway, my comment about fuel fillers was because of the suggestion they can be used to date a vehicle - this would only be the case on later vehicles and series 3s.

Hi
Is that correct about the 2.6 engine.
I thought that they was fitted to the early 2B
I have also read that Land Rovers had 2.6  Engines fitted in 1966?


 

[Calum]

Hi
Is that correct about the 2.6 engine.
I thought that they was fitted to the early 2B
I have also read that Land Rovers had 2.6  Engines fitted in 1966?


 

Yes, quire right. Forward controls had the 2.6 before 1967 (not sure when they started to be honest), and the NADA 6 pots were made in 1966... But for the home market, 'bonneted control' models were only available from April 1967.