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[Genem]

An email from a member who was let down by whoever sold them the vehicle...

Hi Gene, sorry you have been trying to contact me about renewing my membership for ages, you were right about going into my junk box.
I won't renew my membership as  I'm afraid I have sold my so called series 2 as it wasn't what I thought it was, just a series 3 on older plates and some series 2 bits bolted on, guess I should have joined your club before purchasing and maybe I could have spotted the differences, I bet you come across this a lot? However I did manage to sell it (as a series 3)but for a lot less than I payed for it but at least I can sleep at night. I now have a series 3 (I think) lightweight which I love.
All the best.

What a shame.

[diffwhine]

Says it all. There's a lot of it about at the moment...

Maybe direct him to the Military Lightweight Club Forum and we can work on him from there... 

[GHOBHW]

seeing it a lot lately, series 3s on 2a plates, guess the 2a pool is drying up, soon it will be the series 3s turn

not that there isnt legit vehicles out there that have been modified over the years.
a guy i know is doing his 2a with series 3 donor parts, just for the dashboard
but you have to check everything really, top to bottom, engine to tub

[Alan Drover]

My Series 3 has a registration number from the 2A era but I don't try and pass it off as a 2A. It's a 1975 3 with personal plates.

[TimV]

He could always join the club - even though he has a S3? There's a lot he could get out of it.

[Wittsend]

It is a shame...

In this day&age of the internet you would think people would do a little armchair surfing - a bit of research whether it be buying a washing machine or telly OR a classic Land Rover.

If they do then "WE" are out there and easily found through one of our various outlets.
Help and guidance is readily available to ALL, not just S2C members.

Not sure what else can be done.

This chap isn't the first to be "conned" and won't be the last 


PS
As you know we take anyone in as a member. Many members have Series 3s, 1s and even Range Rovers and all the rest.
Some don't even have a Land Rover product.



 

[Matt Reeves]

A chap near me has a 1963 Lightweight...on coil springs

[Uffddd]

It is a shame...

In this day&age of the internet you would think people would do a little armchair surfing - a bit of research whether it be buying a washing machine or telly OR a classic Land Rover.

If they do then "WE" are out there and easily found through one of our various outlets.
Help and guidance is readily available to ALL, not just S2C members.

Nt sure what else can be done.

This chap isn't the first to be "coned" and won't be the last 




 

It's very easy to get over excited in the spur of the moment when looking at a potential buy.

[Genem]

A chap near me has a 1963 Lightweight...on coil springs

The 1963 bit is an impossibility but there is a slim chance the coil springs could be something like the Arrows conversion that was legal back in the 80s. Odds are that its actually a lightweight body on a cut down range-rover chassis or a 90 though...

Q. When did DVLA clamp down on the coiler conversions ?

[Peter Holden]

It could also be a Marsland chassis, they did coil spring S2 for trialing

I think anything converted to coils in the last 5 years (it may be longer) is subject to the DVLA radically modified vehicle rules

Peter

[Genem]

Would it be worth asking DVLA when the "radically altered" criteria were introduced, at risk of waking the Dragon ?

 

[Matt Reeves]

The 1963 bit is an impossibility but there is a slim chance the coil springs could be something like the Arrows conversion that was legal back in the 80s. Odds are that its actually a lightweight body on a cut down range-rover chassis or a 90 though...

Q. When did DVLA clamp down on the coiler conversions ?

Doubtful, the remains of the "donor" civvy 2a were still in his garden until last year and given the number of dead Disco's lined up I'd stick my neck out and say that's probably where the underpinnings originated.

Personally I have no problem with folks creating something for their own gratification, legal issues aside, but it's when it gets passed off as something else entirely to an unwary new owner that I find distasteful.

[w3526602]

we take anyone in as a member. Many members have Series 3s, 1s and even Range Rovers and all the rest.
Some don't even have a Land Rover product.

Oi! Aan,

Who are you calling "ANYBODY"? 

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[Wittsend]

Education ... Education ... Education

There are plenty of people out there (including car buffs) who think vehicles with the lights in the wings are the Series 3 model.

When I started out my 1st Land Rover had a plastic S3 grille, I thought it was until I did a little poking around and found the chassis number.

Like some call the chassis plate - the car number, incorrectly as the VIN plate.

That all Series 3s have a plastic steering wheel.

etc. etc.

There are so many traps - caveat emptor

Some sellers don't know what they have, another group know exactly what they have and are pulling a fast one 
All we can do is help and educate.

 

[Peter Holden]

We even have members who have abandoned S2s in favour of freelancers.

Peter