The Land Rover Series 2 Club Forum

Advanced search  

News:

    Here comes the sun ...

Pages: [1] 2 3 4   Go Down

Author Topic: Red diesel ban.  (Read 2123 times)

Grandadrob

  • Gear shifter
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: North Herefordshire
  • Posts: 473
  • More questions than answers.
Red diesel ban.
« on: January 26, 2022, 01:53:05 PM »

The Government is about to ban use of red diesel in the construction industry. The best bit is the reason…… it is for environmental reasons.  So they switch to normal diesel.    There is no difference.
So for their words environmental reasons, substitute tax rise.   Is this the thin end of the wedge. Who next farmers, fishermen.  :shakeinghead
« Last Edit: January 28, 2022, 03:24:48 PM by Wittsend »
Logged
1955 86inch petrol.
1960 88inch Diesel.
2013 FFRR SDV8 4.4

Worf

  • Moderator
  • Master of the oils
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Gwynedd, North Wales
  • Posts: 767
  • Member no : 3448
  • .:
    • Aberdaron B&B
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 02:38:05 PM »

They say that it will encourage a switch to "green" HVO, but that will be taxed at exactly the same rate as derv  :stars
And HVO is more expensive anyway!
Logged
"If tha knows nowt, say nowt an-appen nob'dee'll notice."

Betsy1969

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Posts: 745
  • Member no : 5469
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 06:04:24 PM »

HVO ?
Logged

diffwhine

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Haslemere, Surrey
  • Posts: 3580
  • Member no : 6762
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2022, 06:12:54 PM »

Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil
Just kill off a few orangutans by destroying their habitat and planting palm oil instead...
Logged
1965 88" Station Wagon
1968 Rover 1 Air Portable
2004 Discovery TD5 2 ES
2007 Discovery TDV6 HSE
More trouble than one person should have to cope with...

Noddy

  • S2C Member
  • Gear shifter
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Lincolnshire
  • Posts: 353
  • Member no : 3118
  • .:
Logged

Matt Reeves

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Gwynedd
  • Posts: 570
  • Member no : 6086
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2022, 07:18:51 PM »

Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil
Just kill off a few orangutans by destroying their habitat and planting palm oil instead...

Exactly! Unfortunately many things which are now being promoted as being "green" are anything but :shakeinghead

To quote Pvt. Frazer We're doomed....
Logged

Correus

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Online Online
  • Location: Belle Plaine, Kansas
  • Posts: 1553
  • Member no : 6533
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2022, 07:31:55 PM »

Exactly! Unfortunately many things which are now being promoted as being "green" are anything but :shakeinghead

To quote Pvt. Frazer We're doomed....

True...  lithium and cobalt mining isn't all that 'green' either.
Logged
'63 SIIa 88 Station Wagon named Grover

Mpudi: So how did the land rover get up the tree?
Steyn: Do you know she has flowers on her panties?
Mpudi: So that'#039s how it got up the tree.

Worf

  • Moderator
  • Master of the oils
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Gwynedd, North Wales
  • Posts: 767
  • Member no : 3448
  • .:
    • Aberdaron B&B
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2022, 07:53:29 PM »

Exactly! Unfortunately many things which are now being promoted as being "green" are anything but :shakeinghead

To quote Pvt. Frazer We're doomed....

In my experience (and probably along with  a lot of others), a large number of "green" products either dont work or are not really green at all (or both)
Wood preservative, paint stripper, water based paint and glue that dont work or need an ambient temp of 25c might be ok in California, but pretty useless in this cool and damp land. Wood pellets from quick grown trees replacing rain forests and then shipped half way round the world (in an oil burning boat) to be burnt at Drax were given huge grants and only now are greenies cottoning on to the stupidity of this. Not to mention EV's or ethanol production:shakeinghead

Apparently there is a reserve of mineable coal in the UK to last 400 years in the UK. The technology to "clean burn" this is  already there. Unfortunately it is all down to profit, and people lining their pockets. We are being duped, but I suppose that has always been the case.

Sorry, rant over. >:D
Logged

diffwhine

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Haslemere, Surrey
  • Posts: 3580
  • Member no : 6762
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2022, 07:58:30 PM »

And as a certain well known UK petrochemical company pointed out a few weeks ago...

Who produces all the raw materials to make carbon fibre reinforced polymers?

What are wind turbines made from...?
Logged

GHOBHW

  • S2C Member
  • Gear shifter
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: South Yorkshire
  • Posts: 440
  • Member no : 6817
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2022, 08:21:40 PM »

same as everything else, even farming now, they pay more for you to leave the field empty or plant it with trees than you get from crops, so more food is bought from across the seas, brought in on boats and people act like its a good thing, self sustaining should be the goal, but there is no thought in it anymore.

so long as we dont see it in the UK, its all fine and dandy. soon it'll all be planted or paved over and all the mess will be abroad and people will pat themselves on the back for it. ???
Logged

BettyWhite

  • S2C Member
  • Hub seal tester
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: London
  • Posts: 125
  • Member no : 7452
  • .:
  • Only fools think that they are wise
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2022, 08:30:40 PM »

"Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone, they pave paradise and put up a parking lot"

Some people call it progress when we leave the the land and move into offices.

Good luck
BW

Logged
I've given so many people a piece of my mind over the years that I haven't got much left and my give a damn was busted years ago!

Worf

  • Moderator
  • Master of the oils
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Gwynedd, North Wales
  • Posts: 767
  • Member no : 3448
  • .:
    • Aberdaron B&B
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2022, 08:32:49 PM »

same as everything else, even farming now, they pay more for you to leave the field empty or plant it with trees than you get from crops, so more food is bought from across the seas, brought in on boats and people act like its a good thing, self sustaining should be the goal, but there is no thought in it anymore.

so long as we dont see it in the UK, its all fine and dandy. soon it'll all be planted or paved over and all the mess will be abroad and people will pat themselves on the back for it. ???

Quite. Shipping avocados and almonds  (loved by vegans) flown in from across the world from unsustainable sources. Can't you make vegan sausages from grass  ???
https://impactful.ninja/least-sustainable-plant-based-foods/
Logged

Neil Bymouth

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: North West Hampshire
  • Posts: 1494
  • Member no : 7511
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2022, 08:33:40 PM »

And as a certain well known UK petrochemical company pointed out a few weeks ago...

Who produces all the raw materials to make carbon fibre reinforced polymers?

What are wind turbines made from...?
...and batteries for electric cars.
Logged
Series 3 owner but interested in all Land Rovers.
'Being born was my first big mistake!'

Correus

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Online Online
  • Location: Belle Plaine, Kansas
  • Posts: 1553
  • Member no : 6533
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2022, 09:15:12 PM »

same as everything else, even farming now, they pay more for you to leave the field empty or plant it with trees than you get from crops, so more food is bought from across the seas, brought in on boats and people act like its a good thing, self sustaining should be the goal, but there is no thought in it anymore.

so long as we dont see it in the UK, its all fine and dandy. soon it'll all be planted or paved over and all the mess will be abroad and people will pat themselves on the back for it. ???

Farmers over there are dealing with that as well?  Interesting.  Over here the same is happening, as well as farmers being ordered to destroy crops that are ready for harvesting.  They are threatened with the loss of subsidies.  And it's not just crop farmers.  Dairy farmers have been ordered to dump their milk instead of selling it.  There are videos showing dairy farmers taking their containers of milk out in the fields and dumping it.
Logged

Old Hywel

  • S2C Member
  • Master of the oils
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Location: Vale of Glamorgan
  • Posts: 744
  • Member no : 6823
  • .:
Re: Red diesel ban.
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2022, 09:22:30 PM »

…… dairy farmers taking their containers of milk out in the fields and dumping it.

Can’t do that here, it would probably be classed as toxic waste.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 4   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.068 seconds with 17 queries.