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Title: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: Sankey jr. on June 20, 2021, 02:14:23 PM
Okay, me and my dad (Sankey, in case you couldn't guess) went to look at this one in the week with absolutely no idea what we were going to find. What we found was a nice straight early 109, with some non-standard running gear. Had a look, said thank you and off we went. Only on the way home did I look up the registration on DVLA to be greeted with September 1958 - whoa! This just got a lot more interesting.

Anyway after a bit of digging it was decided we would have it so went down this morning to do the deal. What we appear to have bought is a very early 59MY home market petrol - chassis number 93. However it is fitted with a honking great Perkins diesel (unsure which one) and what we think are heavy-duty ENV axles. We think this because attached to said axles are a set of One Ton rims and 9.00x16 tyres!!!

It was sort of bought on a whim as there is no paperwork, but while I wandered off to look at the seller's aeroplane project (!) Terry did some digging around in the junk filling the truck, and chanced upon a brown leather satchel - being the nosey *&%^$ he is he forced it open only to find the original VIN plate lying inside.

No doubt I am going to have many questions about the provenance of the bits, but in the meantime enjoy the pics :)

(https://i.ibb.co/c855L4p/IMG-0963.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/rs9mQwY/IMG-0982.jpg)
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: 22900013A on June 20, 2021, 02:55:17 PM
Just been chatting with your dad about this, seems entirely possible the entire undercarriage is off a 1 Ton 109" with the earlier body grafted on. It would need more digging to be sure though, it's too early for factory ENV axles (pretty sure they were 1963/4 onwards only) and would be interesting to check the chassis details. Could just be a bit of a bitsa but you never know. I'm not aware of the long spring mounts existing prior to 1960 either.
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: genocache on June 20, 2021, 05:21:04 PM
Out of curiosity, what makes a 109 a one ton? Link?
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: nathanglasgow on June 20, 2021, 05:41:50 PM
Big wheels/ground clearance and a lower ratio gearbox?
I'd like to know too.
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: Bradley66 on June 20, 2021, 06:15:26 PM
I think one ton`s came along in the late 60`s .
9.00 x 16 Tyres , 6.5" wide wheels , lower range transfer box , extended shackles and .......that's all I can remember without referring to the James Taylor book.
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: 22900013A on June 20, 2021, 07:06:35 PM
Www.onetonlandrovers.co.uk
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: Libby_59series2 on June 22, 2021, 05:26:41 PM
Cant wait to have a look at this one, you guys have been busy of late ! You might finish 3 before we do 1.
Title: Re: '58 109 - mystery motor
Post by: Mr Ed on June 22, 2021, 05:36:39 PM
Sorry for hanging on this post, just one question ..

Does anyone know if the Santana Cazorla also uses a very slow gearbox?
 
I have a friend who has a Cazorla, and his gearboxes are REALLY VERY SHORT. And this with 750x16 and without connecting the low ratio.