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[ChrisJC]

I suspect it is part of a clever scheme. Land Rover are pursuing legal action I believe saying that Ineos have basically copied Defender.
Here we can see Ineos lining up a whole bunch of very similar looking vehicles, so they can claim otherwise.

Chris.

[diffwhine]

That legal battle I believe has been won (by INEOS)...

[diffwhine]

Looking good!
Hope it wont differ too much from the prototype. Does the strip under the rear windows need to be there?
Does it just have one windscreen wiper?

https://uk.motor1.com/news/442616/ineos-grenadier-prototype-display-concours-of-elegance/

What you are looking at there isn't even a prototype, its an engineering "mule" with a mocked up body. One working wiper is all it needs to be a functional test vehicle.
The strip below the rear windows is an equipment mounting runner - really quite useful!

[Worf]

Wheels and tyres now!
https://tinyurl.com/y4vvu29d

[oddjob]

That sticky out wheel centre is going to get scratched to pieces in ruts.
Why design it that way? 

[genocache]

Have you been seeing it on the climbs during the Vuelta?

[diffwhine]

We had it on the Giro d'Italia as a support vehicle.
Remember this is only a prototype!

[diffwhine]

It's doing the Vuelta at the moment and pops up occasionally on various sports channels.

[Worf]

Now building 80 prototypes (The 2B )

https://tinyurl.com/11o8qns7

[Moogling]

Now building 80 prototypes (The 2B )

https://tinyurl.com/11o8qns7

It seems to me they are definitely playing on the historix land rover naming system.

I think it looks brilliant. I'd love one!

I would also at £30k.. but is it going to be anywhere near that or will it end up being £50k+?

[diffwhine]

Its actually pretty standard nomenclature in automotive pre production, but its nice to see it fits with LR!

Price-wise - it will be a bit North of £30k for definite...

Interestingly - thanks to all the new vehicle price lists on the S2C website, I worked out what a 1965 2A Station Wagon with options would have cost in 1965 (about £1150) and then adjusted that taking into account inflation for 2021 and it came in at just under £18,000. Who said cars are cheaper these days? If I could be a Land Rover Station Wagon new now for under £20K, I'd be a happy chappie...

[ChrisJC]

Interestingly - thanks to all the new vehicle price lists on the S2C website, I worked out what a 1965 2A Station Wagon with options would have cost in 1965 (about £1150) and then adjusted that taking into account inflation for 2021 and it came in at just under £18,000. Who said cars are cheaper these days? If I could be a Land Rover Station Wagon new now for under £20K, I'd be a happy chappie...

You do get more on a vehicle these days. The 1965 model is pretty spartan compared to even a Dacia Duster. And the technology that you get on every vehicle now is highly impressive.

Chris.

[diffwhine]

True Chris, but I remember being told by one of the engineers at Land Rover that a manual lockset on a 110 Defender Station Wagon was more expensive (their cost) than a complete keyless entry system for a full size Range Rover...

[agg221]

You do get more on a vehicle these days. The 1965 model is pretty spartan compared to even a Dacia Duster. And the technology that you get on every vehicle now is highly impressive.

Chris.

I'm not sure I entirely agree. I do agree over certain safety features - seatbelts are not something I am averse to and crumpling steering columns and airbags are probably a good thing, but a lot of the sensors, engine management system all the screen options and readouts just strike me as more features than benefits. Enough sound-deadening to be able to hear the radio is nice but having a vehicle where when it goes wrong you have no choice but to plug it in to a computer is not something I overly enjoy.

I think if I was trying to use something out in the back of beyond I would be more likely to find a bit of metal to bash into shape and a car battery to weld it with than an engine management computer, although I do accept that driving around the UK that probably doesn't apply too often, but when it does it will be more of an acute problem if not on a metalled highway, which is kind of where this type of vehicle is supposed to be able to take you, unlike the RAC truck you then need to come and get you out.

Alec

[Gertie]

Just watched the latest episode.  And I wanted to be a fan of the new Grenadier.  Indeed in the early video releases I was excited and had determined that I would be a customer.

I still think a great vehicle, but I have cooled somewhat with its production leaving the UK.  Somehow that was part of the appeal.  I am not a 'vote leave' everything British is best and it should be built in Lode Lane. Nevertheless, I had thought it would be built in South Wales and I would buy one.  Now, I view it in the same category as any vehicle built in Japan, Germany or USA.  Strange, now that I feel much less inclined to purchase. No that is not true, I don't want one now and have unsubscribed to the email list. 

Don't know what to do now.  The new Defender isn't it either.  I suppose that I will have to stick with GEU and the smile that driving it today picking up timber on a 60 mile round trip brought to my face.  Maybe a respray in time and maybe power steering when my arms become weak.   

Paul