Post by: ROL on November 19, 2019, 02:11:59 PM
I can't see anything by using the search bar, is there any group purchases running or likely soon please?
Mod EDIT:
Running total of interested parties is:
1. ROL (1 pair)
2. snowtigress (1 pair)
3. StooBee (1 pair)
4. Greg (1 pair)
5. Big-chris (1 or 2 pairs?)
6. Rory (1 pair)
7. Sheppy (1 pair)
8. Hopeydaze (1 pair)
9. JohnR (1 pair)
10. mingdiesel (1 pair)
11. 100+9 (1 piece - LH)
12. Tom H (1 piece OR pair?)
13. resallen (1 pair)
14. Aimbones (1 pair)
15. dazs (1 pair)
16. MikeT (1 pair)
17. willpgee (1 pair)
18. WMD1969 (1 pair)
19. dpuzey (1 pair)
20. linesrg (1 pair)
21. kev (1 pair)
22. Petunia (1 pair)
23. CornwallDave (depending on cost)
24. BigLee (1 pair)
25. Bills2A (1 pair)
26. Wombat (2 pairs)
27. Moogling (1 or 2 pairs? Depending on cost)
28. 582LTR (1 pair)
29. KLR875 (1 pair)
30. agg221 (1 pair)
31. Simeon (1 pair)
32. discojosh (1 pair)
33. Jesse411 (1 pair)
34. Fluffle-Valve (1 pair)
35. Monkey mike (1 pair)
36. JonA (1 pair)
37. JVS 602 (1 pair)
38. Morf (1 pair)
39. kempus (1 pair)
40. FMeakin (1 pair)
41. MWAD7 (1 pair)
42. Megageoff (1 pair)
43. Noddy (1 pair)
44. fidrover (1 pair)
45. fire3500 (1 pair)
46. Andylandy2829 (1 pair)
47. Philmicky (2 pairs)
48. Andyphilipou (driver's side only)
49. gammaman (2 pairs)
50. Bassets4eva (1 pair)
51. Alan (1 pair)
52. angello (1 pair)
53. Supercal2007 (2 pairs)
54. Jack7 (1 pair)
55. genocache (1 pair)
56. Forest2a (1 pair)
57. Tenbellies (1 pair)
58. Robin (2 pairs)
59. Bloke (1 pair)
60. Stevenkav (1 pair)
61. Matthew Cook (1 pair)
62. Daveincov (1 pair)
63. A-Ro (1 pair)
64. PaulR (1 pair)
65. vegasbugeye (1 pair)
66. 2aornot2a (1 pair)
67. robin60 (1 pair)
68. Chuckc4 (1 pair)
69. BeeDeeCee (1 pair)
70. GlenAnderson (1 pair)
71. Mike Att (1 pair)
72. lightweightles (1 pair)
73. Old80 (1 pair)
74. Ferguson1947 (1 pair)
75. cgalpin (1 pair)
Loom:
1. linesrg
2. willpgee
3. BigLee
4. Bills2A
5. Wombat
6. Rory
7 582LTR
8. agg221
9. snowtigress
10. Hopeydaze
11. Jesse411
12. Wombat (2 sets)
13. Sheppy
14. KLR875
15. WMD1969
16. Fluffle-Valve (?)
17. Monkey mike
18. JonA
19. JVS 602
20. Morf
21. kempus
22. FMeakin
23. MWAD7
24. Megageoff
25. Noddy
26. fire3500
27. Andyphilipou
28. gammaman
29. Rory
30. Bassets4eva
31. Alan
32. MikeT
33. angello
34. Supercal2007 (x2)
35. Jack7
36. Bloke
37. ROL
38. Daveincov
39. PaulR
40. vegasbugeye
41. 2aornot2a
42. robin60
43. Chuckc4
44. BeeDeeCee
45. GlenAnderson
46. Mike Att
47. lightweightles
48. Old80
49. Ferguson1947
50. cgalpin
Post by: GlenAnderson on November 19, 2019, 02:20:18 PM
Post by: Alice B on November 19, 2019, 02:49:27 PM
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on November 19, 2019, 03:30:21 PM
I was like a relay station.
I went out and collected a whole load of them from a member, (Can't remember who now), that had them delivered to his house.
I even delivered a few local ones.
I was scared stiff of them getting broken in my garage.
Post by: Wittsend on November 19, 2019, 03:45:07 PM
Over the life of this forum we have done 3 electric screen offers - and very successful (and well supported they were) :first
At the time there was only one UK importer/agent (they were/are made in Spain), nowadays I believe there are several sources.
1st we need someone to step up to the plate and organise this.
1) Find a source and negotiate a discount.
2) Compile a list of interested forumeers with a firm commitment to pay.
3) Collect the money and put it in a "protected" account.
4) Storage - 50 pairs of screens take up 2 pallets and will fill a standard garage - they are heavy.
5) Onward distribution. Personal collection is best. Then as Fluffle posted - onward forum relay.
:-\
You can not post or courier these out - without tears :'(
Glass breaks and you just need one stroppy "customer" to sour the whole experience.
That said the heated screen offers have been one of our best/successful forum offers :first
Heated screens are one of the best "upgrades" you can fit to your Land Rover - more so if it's a daily driver - and you don't need frost to get the benefit, they shift condensation in double quick time.
Wire each screen separately for options. Each screen draws 8.5 amps so a dynamo setup will flatten the battery in double quick time - you need an alternator.
Robin on here can/could supply relay timers so the screens turn off automatically.
:window
Post by: StooBee on November 19, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
Post by: Robin on November 19, 2019, 04:23:11 PM
Robin on here can/could supply relay timers so the screens turn off automatically.
Happy to do the same again if it takes off :tiphat
Post by: Wittsend on November 19, 2019, 04:32:58 PM
:-\
Remember, there's nothing to stop 2 people pairing up and buying a screen each - for the driver's side only.
Still a very effective and worth while modification.
The screens are not handed (or at least the ones we had weren't).
Post by: GlenAnderson on November 19, 2019, 05:12:35 PM
Post by: Noddy on November 19, 2019, 06:01:23 PM
https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/landrover-s2-s3-split-screen-left-heated.html#SID=463
https://tynesidesafetyglass.com/products/heated-glass
Post by: ian_1968 on November 19, 2019, 06:20:02 PM
Post by: StooBee on November 19, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
Count me in if this is happening!
Post by: Greg on November 19, 2019, 10:34:26 PM
Post by: Big-chris on November 20, 2019, 12:42:26 AM
Post by: Rory on November 20, 2019, 05:14:15 AM
Post by: Sheppy on November 20, 2019, 06:32:32 AM
Post by: 100+9 on November 20, 2019, 07:05:31 AM
A timer relay is good for the full job. Simpler is a stonking great pull-type 20A switch, less messing.
Post by: Sheppy on November 20, 2019, 07:58:34 AM
Thanks
Post by: Porkscratching on November 20, 2019, 08:29:08 AM
Post by: Alan on November 20, 2019, 08:40:21 AM
Post by: Formerlyjeremy on November 20, 2019, 09:21:33 AM
Post by: oilstain on November 20, 2019, 01:47:56 PM
Instead I fitted a new Claytons core to the round heater and cable tied the heater doors shot so it only heated the screen which worked very well :first
To keep myself warm I fitted a ex. Land Rover army ambulance heater under the pasenger seat vented towards me where it can burn my legs :stars
They are both plumbed in series and it works well, for me 2 heaters seems the best option :tiphat
Post by: Hopeydaze on November 20, 2019, 02:15:45 PM
Post by: genocache on November 20, 2019, 06:40:58 PM
Post by: Sheppy on November 20, 2019, 07:35:13 PM
Thanks
Post by: JohnR on November 20, 2019, 09:05:17 PM
Post by: Wittsend on November 20, 2019, 11:13:23 PM
We now need someone to volunteer and negotiate with a supplier the cost and a place for them to be delivered to and stored for onward distribution.
:window
Post by: mingdiesel on November 21, 2019, 06:49:15 AM
Post by: 100+9 on November 21, 2019, 08:27:54 AM
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We now need someone to volunteer and negotiate with a supplier the cost and a place for them to be delivered to and stored for onward distribution.
I'd be happy to do that, it's the lump of cash I don't really want sight of. People have a funny way of getting narky - money is where this sort of thing goes bent.
With my commercial head on, for a decent price, the supplier won't want to mess with 'dribs and drabs'. 'One delivery, one payment' will be most attractive. Delivery is where he'll be losing margins. I wouldn't think 10 orders will see the pulse race.
Distributors will get excited when we empty their stock. Pallets. Still not ex-factory pricing (30% of retail?). But I suspect I could not get to the factory, hence we'd be dealing with distributors at their margin. 50-60% of retail?
How was this dealt with last time?
Post by: 100+9 on November 21, 2019, 08:35:44 AM
Post by: Noddy on November 21, 2019, 10:10:08 AM
Post by: Tom H on November 21, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
Post by: ROL on November 21, 2019, 11:33:27 AM
Post by: resallen on November 21, 2019, 11:50:52 PM
Post by: GlenAnderson on November 22, 2019, 03:18:35 AM
The Spanish screens of the last buy were slightly undersize...
I suspected that, because when offered up to the aperture there was a generous gap all around, much bigger than I expected. However, when I compared one of the new panes with the originals they were exactly the same.
Post by: Aimbones on November 22, 2019, 11:56:19 AM
Post by: dazs on November 23, 2019, 07:56:34 AM
Post by: MikeT on November 23, 2019, 09:54:38 AM
Post by: willpgee on November 24, 2019, 05:01:06 PM
Post by: Alice B on November 24, 2019, 07:37:32 PM
After the ice we've had in the last couple of day I would be interested
Please put me down for a pair
Post by: WMD1969 on November 25, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
Post by: dpuzey on November 26, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
Post by: linesrg on November 29, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
I'd like a pair c/w relay kit please.
Regards
Richard
Post by: willpgee on November 29, 2019, 08:00:31 PM
My bonnet cracked the LH. I need one. I'm in Leighton Buzzard (nearish to Luton/Milton Keynes). Anyone happy to relay ooop narth, or further darn sarf?
I'm in Buckingham. If this goes ahead one of us could collect for both? Will
Post by: 100+9 on November 29, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
I'm in Buckingham. If this goes ahead one of us could collect for both? Will
There's a done deal.
Post by: kev on December 01, 2019, 05:54:56 PM
Some frosty mornings leaving around 06:45, it's sometimes downright dangerous trying to see where I'm going... :agh
Post by: Petunia on December 01, 2019, 07:06:18 PM
Right and left, fully see through if possible :tiphat
Hoping that the cognoscenti can help with a wiring diagram too please.
Will
Post by: Wittsend on December 01, 2019, 07:19:41 PM
:window
Post by: Robin on December 01, 2019, 08:04:16 PM
Also, just to avoid any confusion, the screens are wired in parallel - that diagram could be interpreted as connected in series.
Or, if enough folk are interested, I can make up a batch of mini wiring looms with timer and (new for this year) push-button operation :tiphat
Post by: Petunia on December 01, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
All clear now (pun intended) ;)
Best wishes
Will
Post by: willpgee on December 01, 2019, 08:55:34 PM
Post by: Sheppy on December 01, 2019, 09:01:38 PM
Post by: CornwallDave on December 02, 2019, 11:31:08 AM
Post by: BigLee on December 02, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Post by: Wittsend on December 02, 2019, 02:23:30 PM
As a pair, or individually, with or without a timer relay.
I choose to switch the screens on independently and manually, using toggle switches with a built-in LED warning, as seen here (off) ...
There is no right or wrong way. Just bear in mind that each screen draws around 8.5 amps (as measured on my AVO meter) and I'd recommend using one of the "standard" automotive 30 amp relays and they do them with a built-in blade fuse (if you so need).
Post by: willpgee on December 02, 2019, 02:35:48 PM
Post by: 100+9 on December 03, 2019, 08:23:33 PM
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We have, without any doubt, more than enough to place a commercially advantageous order.
We do? I've not done a count. I'm guessing one pallet will be a minimum, better two. 50-100 pcs should make a distributor look up. I'll deal with pricing/ distribution /act as staging post. Sorry, not money. I'm VAT reg'd - thus I could do without the headache of Her Maj's jackals for a while longer.
Post by: willpgee on December 21, 2019, 05:58:25 PM
Post by: 100+9 on December 26, 2019, 12:14:30 AM
So unless we see an upsurge, on what we have here, the price would be the same or increase!
Can the next do a count?
Post by: bill2a on December 26, 2019, 12:52:15 AM
Post by: Wombat on December 26, 2019, 11:56:37 AM
Post by: Moogling on December 26, 2019, 12:24:45 PM
Post by: 582LTR on December 26, 2019, 01:11:51 PM
Martin
Post by: Bloke on December 26, 2019, 11:10:19 PM
2. snowtigress (1 pair)
3. StooBee (1 pair)
4. Greg (1 pair)
5. Big-chris (1 or 2 pairs?)
6. Rory (1 pair)
7. Sheppy (1 pair)
8. Hopeydaze (1 pair)
9. JohnR (1 pair)
10. mingdiesel (1 pair)
11. 100+9 (1 piece - LH)
12. Tom H (1 piece OR pair?)
13. resallen (1 pair)
14. Aimbones (1 pair)
15. dazs (1 pair)
16. MikeT (1 pair)
17. willpgee (1 pair)
18. snowtigress (1 pair)
19. WMD1969 (1 pair)
20. dpuzey (1 pair)
21. linesrg (1 pair)
22. kev (1 pair)
23. Petunia (1 pair)
24. CornwallDave (depending on cost)
25. BigLee (1 pair)
26. Bills2A (1 pair)
27. Wombat (1 pair)
28. Moogling (1 or 2 pairs? Depending on cost)
29. 582LTR (1 pair)
Post by: 100+9 on December 27, 2019, 01:55:39 AM
Is anyone keeping a tally of how many pairs are being requested? Many people are saying they would like some depending on the price, is anyone offering to contact the company - besides 109 - and get prices per 50/100/150 sets? I could possibly make a purchase, depending on numbers and the understanding that I won’t be sending them out, they will need collecting from Lincolnshire, which isn’t exactly central. I probably wouldn’t get in touch with the company before 2/1/2020.
Martin
I shouldn't lift a finger until members decide they want these. To make this attractive to S2 clubbers the price needs to be close to that paid by retailers, 50-60% of retail. To do that we must persuade the distributor to drop his margin with numbers. Of course we must price-in the 'orribles - breakages, pallet, pallet courier, bank charges and broken promises etc. There is risk. And any student of human-nature needs to consider, some will back-out the second they realise these are to be collected and won't be a fiver a pop.
Unless these are already sitting on a pallet in a warehouse, the distributor needs to import. That means they must stump for these, and to do that, we still need to give them margin, and monies up-front. Or why do it? This soon gets messy.
Who knows, but even if out of the current 29, there's 25, that's not enough. Anyone's guess - a pallet must be at least 50+. More likely 100+.
When we've a comfortable pallet of orders, I'll chase it. Make it worth the hassle, and likely the distributor will deal with the money.
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on December 27, 2019, 09:32:34 AM
Post by: 100+9 on December 27, 2019, 09:40:21 AM
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I seem to remember there being 50 plus on the order I was in.
That would make sense. Reality check...
All I shall do is get the pallet-quantity price, and list details of who to email with a phone numbers etc for payment.
No business can afford to handle this for free. After all, we can't have it both ways, retail price is there to cover this.
Those of you serious enough will do this, and accept there is a business to run. Hence if the pallet etc isn't paid for, the drop-out too high, a realistic admin charge is allowed to pay staff for a day of ringing round. There will be good day's wages chasing down payments. Lest we forget the same again, and all the hassle of cost of refunding charges to cards our lovely banks make, if some of you don't come good. I hope to get a web-site discount code.
So allowing for those that don't sound too sure already, another 30-40 orders gents...
Post by: agg221 on December 27, 2019, 10:58:08 AM
If you are interested, please continue to tag new posts to the end of the thread and I will keep the running total updated.
100+9 - if you are going to do some ringing round, the first thing we need to know is the pallet quantity and the pallet price delivered to the distribution site. Simple maths then determines what the price per screen will be. I'm not sure where the 'business' aspect of this you refer to in your post comes from though - it will be a 'group purchase' from a supplier who will set their discount accordingly.
Alec
Post by: Gosney83 on December 27, 2019, 11:16:49 AM
Post by: KLR875 on December 27, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
Thanks to whoever can solve this bulk-purchase
Post by: Simeon on December 27, 2019, 07:55:29 PM
Post by: Series2ajosh on December 27, 2019, 08:31:25 PM
Post by: Robin on December 27, 2019, 10:45:45 PM
For convenience of finding it, I have put the running total of interested parties in the first post of this thread.
If you are interested, please continue to tag new posts to the end of the thread and I will keep the running total updated.
It's worth noting who might be interested in the timer/relay mini loom on the list as well.
Cost would be around £30 each if we get less than 25 ordered, around £25 each if we get more.
Robin
Post by: Rory on December 28, 2019, 08:17:25 AM
Pluse a really simple idiots guide.
Post by: 582LTR on December 28, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
Martin
Post by: Jesse411 on December 28, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
Regards Hugh.
Post by: 100+9 on December 28, 2019, 01:46:06 PM
I'm not sure where the 'business' aspect of this you refer to in your post comes from though - it will be a 'group purchase' from a supplier who will set their discount accordingly."Ah, you need Mr. Bunce."
Alec
Agreed, we shouldn't get into anything as tawdry as 'business', this is a 'group purchase'.
As a kid I used to work in the rag-trade for a lovely old school 'Yiddisher boy'. He was an education, and I miss him lots. Once in while we'd get walk-ins. They'd have a disposition or use a language which made it clear they'd never bought and sold for profit in their lives. Like lambs to the slaughter, we'd smile graciously, and greet them with the words...
"Ah, you need Mr. Bunce."
Then we'd introduce Mr Bunce. One of us would step forward. Bunce is profit. Lots of it. The best bit would come a few weeks later - they might be back, and ask for that nice "Mr Bunce". I've been Mr Bunce, many, many times.
Post by: Alice B on December 28, 2019, 03:50:02 PM
It's worth noting who might be interested in the timer/relay mini loom on the list as well.
Cost would be around £30 each if we get less than 25 ordered, around £25 each if we get more.
Robin
Definitely interested in the wiring and relay kit for the pair of screens I've put down for.
Alice
Post by: agg221 on December 28, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
"Ah, you need Mr. Bunce."
Agreed, we shouldn't get into anything as tawdry as 'business', this is a 'group purchase'.
As a kid I used to work in the rag-trade for a lovely old school 'Yiddisher boy'. He was an education, and I miss him lots. Once in while we'd get walk-ins. They'd have a disposition or use a language which made it clear they'd never bought and sold for profit in their lives. Like lambs to the slaughter, we'd smile graciously, and greet them with the words...
"Ah, you need Mr. Bunce."
Then we'd introduce Mr Bunce. One of us would step forward. Bunce is profit. Lots of it. The best bit would come a few weeks later - they might be back, and ask for that nice "Mr Bunce". I've been Mr Bunce, many, many times.
Ah, thank you for clarifying.
I am well aware of profit - we all need to live.
In this particular case it was less clear - this is a forum associated with a club. The work done by Wittsend and Scotty38 in keeping the forum going is voluntary and unpaid (and very much appreciated). The work done by the club officials is similarly voluntary and unpaid. There are also various club-based deals which happen from time to time for the benefit of the members and the club as a whole, rather than personal renumeration of any individual.
There are some people who post offers to sell things, others who design something and get it manufactured, some who propose to 'batch buy' something and sell it at a fixed price if they can get sufficient interest together. I would imagine it is pretty clear that they will be ensuring they at least cover their costs and beyond that it is up to them what pricing strategy they adopt.
This thread is less obvious since the earlier posts were enquiring about the feasibility of a group purchase and nobody had stepped in and offered to run it as a business proposition. I therefore hadn't appreciated that when you volunteered to handle logistics this was on a profit-generating basis rather than for the benefit of the club and its members.
Since this is now clarified, it would be useful if you could establish how much you will be wanting for your services, alongside the price you can negotiate for the screens based on what minimum order quantity as a group. That way, when the money is being sorted out we will know how much we are dealing with per head.
Alec
Post by: agg221 on December 28, 2019, 06:39:22 PM
It's worth noting who might be interested in the timer/relay mini loom on the list as well.
Cost would be around £30 each if we get less than 25 ordered, around £25 each if we get more.
Robin
I have added this information to the first post.
As with screens - if anyone is interested in the timer/relay mini loom, please could you add this below and I will update the list accordingly.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: 582LTR on December 28, 2019, 06:51:11 PM
Martin
Post by: 100+9 on December 28, 2019, 08:48:52 PM
Ah, thank you for clarifying.
I am well aware of profit - we all need to live.
In this particular case it was less clear - this is a forum associated with a club. The work done by Wittsend and Scotty38 in keeping the forum going is voluntary and unpaid (and very much appreciated). The work done by the club officials is similarly voluntary and unpaid. There are also various club-based deals which happen from time to time for the benefit of the members and the club as a whole, rather than personal renumeration of any individual.
There are some people who post offers to sell things, others who design something and get it manufactured, some who propose to 'batch buy' something and sell it at a fixed price if they can get sufficient interest together. I would imagine it is pretty clear that they will be ensuring they at least cover their costs and beyond that it is up to them what pricing strategy they adopt.
This thread is less obvious since the earlier posts were enquiring about the feasibility of a group purchase and nobody had stepped in and offered to run it as a business proposition. I therefore hadn't appreciated that when you volunteered to handle logistics this was on a profit-generating basis rather than for the benefit of the club and its members.
Since this is now clarified, it would be useful if you could establish how much you will be wanting for your services, alongside the price you can negotiate for the screens based on what minimum order quantity as a group. That way, when the money is being sorted out we will know how much we are dealing with per head.
Alec
Free. However it needs to be dealt with on a 'business' footing. Any mention of a ''group-purchase' menas things won't go in our favour. For slow moving lines, a distributor has as many prices as buyers. I would hope all can see it would be dim to go in as the 'S2 club', for that owns up to two things:
1) We usually pay retail
2) This won't be a repeat buy
A distributor wants to hear the first in account of knowing the second. The is a reason B2B web sites don't publish prices. Else the wrong language and handling will cost us money.
Post by: Hopeydaze on December 30, 2019, 03:52:40 PM
David Hope (Hopeydaze)
Post by: Jesse411 on December 30, 2019, 07:05:24 PM
Post by: willpgee on December 30, 2019, 10:04:59 PM
Post by: agg221 on December 31, 2019, 09:28:43 AM
Willpgee - I had already picked up on your interest in a relay, see first post, list of looms, line 2.
Alec
Post by: Wombat on January 01, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Could you please put me down for 2 pairs and 2 looms, switches and associated bits, I might as well do my series 3 at the same time. Cheers Mike
Post by: Sheppy on January 01, 2020, 02:23:49 PM
Thanks
D
Post by: KLR875 on January 01, 2020, 07:00:54 PM
Thank you
Post by: WMD1969 on January 02, 2020, 06:31:48 PM
Post by: agg221 on January 02, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on January 02, 2020, 07:13:32 PM
All updated :-)
Alec
Okay, so the list appears to be getting longer for a set of screens and wiring kit.
I'm not in an urgent need for a pair but I'm considering getting a pair for future use.
I now have a Carawagon that could probably benefit from having a set of heated screens, but I have no plans to fit them this year.
Post by: Monkey mike on January 05, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Mike :window
Post by: JonA on January 06, 2020, 09:26:55 AM
and please put me on the list for pair of screens and loom too.
thanks
Post by: JVS 602 on January 06, 2020, 06:50:14 PM
Post by: Morf on January 07, 2020, 10:38:29 AM
Thanks
Morf
Post by: kempus on January 07, 2020, 11:36:00 AM
Thanks
Tim
Post by: 100+9 on January 07, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
With at least 60-65 promises, I'd like to see 70, I'll make the call.
Post by: FMeakin on January 11, 2020, 01:03:21 PM
Post by: MWAD7 on January 11, 2020, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on January 11, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
Post by: Dentman on January 11, 2020, 10:36:01 PM
Post by: bill2a on January 12, 2020, 01:03:53 AM
Orders appear to have picked-up. Count is now at 42ish. Not all will be forthcoming and cash-ready. Promises, and pre-orders won't all come good. When we mention money, in my experience 15-25% will drop-out? At 50+ we can expect to buy at retail margin. Thus, at another 20-25 pre-orders, we should finish with a solid 50+. We also need more to be sure of wide-distribution. A bloke in Halifax is hardly wanting to go to say, Liverpool, simply because the spread is so thin. ie: that's the nearest in the run-order.what about all of us in Devon and Cornwall
With at least 60-65 promises, I'd like to see 70, I'll make the call.
Post by: bill2a on January 12, 2020, 01:05:03 AM
Post by: 100+9 on January 12, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
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what about all of us in Devon and Cornwall
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And Dorset and Somerset
Don't tell anyone. The dastardly masterplan sends Jockinese orders to the Isle Of Wight.
And, any orders from Manchester get sent to a bloke who moved to Weston-Super-Mare, and likes to be known as Sue.
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on January 13, 2020, 03:31:18 PM
Did it need very much twisting Mr. Fluffle ???
Not really. It has been in the pipeline on jobs to do, but not just yet this year.
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on January 13, 2020, 03:32:30 PM
Don't tell anyone. The dastardly masterplan sends Jockinese orders to the Isle Of Wight.
And, any orders from Manchester get sent to a bloke who moved to Weston-Super-Mare, and likes to be known as Sue.
Is he a boy?
Post by: Dentman on January 13, 2020, 10:35:40 PM
Post by: willpgee on January 24, 2020, 06:14:35 PM
Post by: agg221 on January 24, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
There has been some discussion around how to float the costs of excess pairs. There is no commitment to this, but in principle would people be happy if the price per pair was £10 higher than absolute cost, that the balance was used to cover the temporary excess (and deal with the risk of a possible loss of a pair somewhere along the way) and ultimately when all pairs have been sold the surplus ended up in club funds?
Feedback on the above two questions would be useful.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: willpgee on January 24, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Post by: 100+9 on January 24, 2020, 08:06:25 PM
Info required:
Forum ID:
Nearest principle city/Town:
Postcode:
email:
phone:
Else this becomes a time-consuming admin nightmare. If this lot gets paid for by card, the price goes up for all sorts of reasons - we want to secure a price and arrangement as would a retailer, at a retailer price. It's assumed payment via T/T. Cheques etc are too much hassle.
£10 excess sounds a bit much, if we price in for 10% breakages, I would hope that covers it. We are taking similar risks to any retailer. Be clear to all, there's risk in this, that's in the price.
Give it a fortnight or so and I'll make noises on what we have.
Post by: 100+9 on January 24, 2020, 08:12:44 PM
Post by: Megageoff on January 24, 2020, 10:37:08 PM
Thanks.
Geoff
Post by: 100+9 on January 24, 2020, 10:54:56 PM
Post by: Noddy on January 25, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
Alec
Post by: nathanglasgow on January 25, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
There isn't one. You're putting your name to a bulk-buy at a price you wouldn't usually get near. So whatever the price, by virtue of numbers, if you want a set, here's the cheapest you'll ever see. I would expect 50-60% of std retail. At least, or it's not worth doing is it?Ricky Evans Motorsports sell the right side heated screen for £70 ex vat. Paddocks sell the pair with controller for £315 Inc vat. Work out from that what you are happy to pay. Me, I'm too cheap and just scrape the ice off but only had to do it a handful of times this year :tiphat
Post by: nathanglasgow on January 25, 2020, 10:05:30 AM
I am interested in the screens and loom but what is the price? Sorry I realise it’s probably somewhere in the 8 pages but can some just refresh this information please?There isn't one. You're putting your name to a bulk-buy at a price you wouldn't usually get near. So whatever the price, by virtue of numbers, if you want a set, here's the cheapest you'll ever see. I would expect 50-60% of std retail. At least, or it's not worth doing is it?
Thanks.
Geoff
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Ricky Evans Motorsports sell the right side heated screen for £70 ex vat. Paddocks sell the pair with controller for £315 Inc vat. Work out from that what you are happy to pay. Me, I'm too cheap and just scrape the ice off but only had to do it a handful of times this year :tiphat
Post by: fidrover on January 25, 2020, 03:39:41 PM
Simon
Post by: fire3500 on January 25, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
I am interested in a pair:
[Edited to remove details from open forum.]
Post by: Andylandy2829 on January 25, 2020, 06:59:53 PM
Post by: agg221 on January 25, 2020, 07:05:28 PM
I'm interested in a pair please, my details are here:
I am interested in a pair:
Hi Ian,
I have removed your contact details from the open forum as they are generally viewable, even by unregistered guests and you might not want to give that away.
I have added your interest (do you also want the relay and loom to fit them?) - this is on the first post in the thread. I have also updated this with everyone else who has expressed an interest. Once we have a price I will contact everyone on the list and ask for confirmation of interest at that price, and the necessary information so that the logistics can be sorted out.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: agg221 on January 25, 2020, 07:06:16 PM
I’m interested in a pair depending on cost
Will you also want the loom?
Alec
Post by: fire3500 on January 25, 2020, 07:17:11 PM
Will you also want the loom?
Alec
Thank you, good points all... :)
Yes please. As close to plug and play as is available although anything from glass upwards works :)
Post by: Philmicky on January 25, 2020, 08:19:13 PM
Post by: andyphillipou on January 26, 2020, 12:53:35 PM
Andy
Post by: gammaman on January 26, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
Thanks Gordon
Post by: Rory on January 26, 2020, 03:54:05 PM
Who do I pm with details?
Post by: agg221 on January 26, 2020, 05:52:49 PM
Who do I pm with details?
Nobody yet!
There are a few things going on in the background to sort out the financial side. Once these are resolved, the next step will be to get a price. This will be posted on this thread and also PM'ed to everyone who has expressed an interest (captured in the list in the first post of the thread). Response to that PM will be confirmation of what you want and some other details will be requested at the same time so that we can work out the logistics. Watch this space ;)
Alec
Post by: Rory on January 26, 2020, 06:05:24 PM
Post by: Bassets4eva on January 26, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
Thanks Mark
Post by: Alan on January 27, 2020, 05:14:30 AM
I'm interested in a pair and a loom.
Many thanks,
Alan
Post by: MikeT on January 27, 2020, 09:10:06 AM
Post by: agg221 on January 27, 2020, 09:23:48 AM
What with those making it clear they don't want a set if they cost money, don't want to pour cold water on this...
However there's practical reality. With such small numbers the geographic-spread won't be good for many. eg: A bloke in Swansea is not keen to go to Bristol, simply because there's no nearer order?
If he drops the other South Wales order drops too. If you see my point. 40 odd orders soon drops like a stone. Saying the unsaid, if you know the angry Taff ever calling late-night chat-radio, you know the one? He'll sound just like him.
I am not sure what (constructive) point you are trying to make.
I think people are well aware these will still cost money. How much of a discount we can get determines how attractive the deal is for each person. If you are planning on buying them anyway then a £20 discount may be worth having; for others, they will have a price in mind and can make a decision once we know how that compares.
Distribution is not likely to be a problem. This has been done twice before with good results for all concerned. Forum relay is not quick, but over the course of a few weeks everything gets to where it should be. Land’s End, John O’Groats and St. David’s just takes a bit longer.
Alec
Post by: RobS on January 27, 2020, 01:23:42 PM
RobS
Post by: MikeT on January 28, 2020, 07:59:40 AM
Post by: oilstain on January 28, 2020, 09:27:55 AM
Both added to the list :-)I have not put my name down this time but did so in the past and bought a pair and whilst the discount looked great the fuel cost of the pick up trip was more than the discount so unless you know the pick up location and discount in advance you need to think about this :whistle
I am not sure what (constructive) point you are trying to make.
I think people are well aware these will still cost money. How much of a discount we can get determines how attractive the deal is for each person. If you are planning on buying them anyway then a £20 discount may be worth having; for others, they will have a price in mind and can make a decision once we know how that compares.
Distribution is not likely to be a problem. This has been done twice before with good results for all concerned. Forum relay is not quick, but over the course of a few weeks everything gets to where it should be. Land’s End, John O’Groats and St. David’s just takes a bit longer.
Alec
Sorry to be a bit negative on this sort of thing
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on January 28, 2020, 01:51:22 PM
However, I'll admit that I was very fearful of the ones I had waiting in my garage for a collection. I finished up moving the long-term waited ones to another shed that rarely got used and wrapped them in a blanket and other soft protective materials. The relief to see them go to their rightful owners was unbelievable.
Post by: angello on January 28, 2020, 02:37:14 PM
Post by: Supercal2007 on January 28, 2020, 09:49:59 PM
Post by: nathanglasgow on January 28, 2020, 10:00:36 PM
Post by: Supercal2007 on January 28, 2020, 11:14:42 PM
Post by: agg221 on January 29, 2020, 12:32:09 AM
Getting too late to update the list tonight, but noted and will do it tomorrow.
Oilstain - yes, people will need full details when deciding whether they want to participate or not. I am getting prices now, which I will put up when I have them.
I also need to figure out what can be relayed to where so offers on that score are very welcome.
Fluffle - I know exactly what you mean. I am probably going to have all of them delivered here at some point, and they will all have to be carried by hand in to storage and then back out again. I suspect I will end up with a very similar feeling of relief when they have all headed off!
Alec
Post by: KLR875 on January 29, 2020, 07:39:39 PM
Ref the relaying. I can do Coventry or Tamworth to York or anywhere part-way. Usually 2x per week at present if it is of any help when the time comes
Lucy
Post by: Jack7 on January 31, 2020, 11:33:34 AM
Thanks.
Post by: agg221 on January 31, 2020, 09:38:01 PM
A quick update.
We are pursuing a couple of options at the moment - quotes are anticipated shortly from suppliers. The first quote to arrive is anticipated on Monday, from the same supplier we used for the last two group purchases on the forum. Once I have the figures I will put them up on this thread.
Once all quotes are received I will be in touch with everyone who has expressed an interest. I will then give it a week to see if there is any further interest and once everything is in place we will sort out payment and delivery.
One thing which has come up that may be of interest. One supplier has indicated that they are prepared to ship out individual screens purchased within the group purchase, both in the UK and worldwide. It won't be cheap, but if the price for the screens is low enough it may still be attractive. Therefore, if you are outside the UK and may be interested, please do post below and I will add you to the contact list.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: genocache on January 31, 2020, 10:27:43 PM
Post by: agg221 on February 04, 2020, 07:31:59 PM
I am pleased to inform everyone that we now have a baseline price for screens.
This will be £127.30 per pair, primary delivery approx. 5 weeks from order. Note, this price is all-inclusive.
It is possible that this figure may be improved upon if there is enough interest.
There will be options on delivery. I will try to set up a forum relay to cover as much of the UK as possible, starting out from a primary delivery point of my place on the Essex/Suffolk/Cambs. border. Screens can also be picked up in person (or as part of the relay) from Bromsgrove. Beyond this, I have confirmation that screens can be shipped worldwide - this will need to be quoted separately by the supplier.
I will shortly be sending out a PM to all those who have expressed an interest, asking for details of what you want, where you need them to get to and asking whether you are able to help with moving/temporarily holding screens.
If anyone else is interested, please do let me know shortly as this will start moving forwards in the very near future.
Regards
Alec
Post by: Forest2a on February 04, 2020, 08:04:44 PM
Apologies for being a latecomer to this thread.
Please put me down for a pair - location New Forest but fully expect to drive somewhere in the region to collect.
No idea when (or indeed if ever!) I will get around to fitting them (would need alternator first) but too good an opportunity to miss I feel.
Regards,
Neil
Post by: Wittsend on February 04, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
I sometimes go to the Essex/Suffolk pub meetings.
I will be going to the N. Y. M. R. weekend at Pickering at the end of May
I will be going to 6d Hadley again this July
and to the Club Rally at Ripon.
There should/will be room to carry a few screens.
... if needed.
:RHD
Post by: MWAD7 on February 04, 2020, 09:25:34 PM
Phew!
Post by: Tenbellies on February 04, 2020, 11:10:26 PM
I would like to order a pr plus relay please
Atb les
Post by: Alice B on February 05, 2020, 02:08:53 PM
Alice
Post by: dazs on February 05, 2020, 04:42:58 PM
Post by: MikeT on February 05, 2020, 08:11:57 PM
Post by: Bloke on February 05, 2020, 10:21:56 PM
Thanks.
Tom
Post by: agg221 on February 05, 2020, 10:56:30 PM
PM sent, thanks for all the hard work.
Hi Mike, no PM yet ???
Alec
Post by: Stevenkav on February 06, 2020, 10:33:04 AM
I’m in Dublin and may be able to help as a delivery point if there are other Irish orders, if that makes sense re delivery cost.
Thanks for all your hard work ..... Steven
Post by: matthew cook on February 06, 2020, 08:50:54 PM
Thanks
Matthew.
Post by: GlenAnderson on February 06, 2020, 10:20:21 PM
Post by: Tenbellies on February 06, 2020, 11:40:39 PM
You have a message regarding order
Atb les
Post by: fidrover on February 07, 2020, 11:23:18 AM
Simon
Post by: ROL on February 07, 2020, 11:25:51 AM
I have responded to the message.
Can you include me in the loom count please.
Thank you
Post by: Daveincov on February 07, 2020, 01:25:18 PM
Regards
David
Post by: Old Hywel on February 07, 2020, 01:32:22 PM
Post by: angello on February 07, 2020, 01:44:35 PM
Post by: agg221 on February 08, 2020, 08:00:58 PM
A quick update.
Thank you to all those who have replied to the PM regarding heated screens. So far we have firm requests for 43 pairs of screens. There are also a further 22 people who expressed an interest but I have not yet heard back from. Please could you check your PMs and let me know either way so that I can check everyone has seen it.
Once I have heard back from everyone or got over the 50 (which is a break point) I will start sorting out payment details. This will come in the form of an email confirming what you have requested and the corresponding figure, with details of how to make payment. It will still be possible for anyone interested to add their name at this point.
Once the payments have all been received from those who have made firm requests, the order will be placed. From that point on it will not be possible to add more screens.
Once the order is placed and I know where all the screens need to get to, I will start playing with the logistical challenge of figuring out how all the screens will reach their owners. Fortunately I enjoy jigsaw puzzles and have a few weeks to work it out. Thanks to all who have indicated that they can help with the forum relay part of this - it does look like I have most of the country covered, although anyone who heads to either the Hampshire, Wiltshire or Devon area via Cambridge, Bromsgrove or Coventry would be useful to identify to fill in the gaps.
Are the screens reversible, i.e. could a LH glass be used for driver’s side on a second vehicle?
I don't know, but I will find out and get back to you.
One final point - I fly out to Colombia on business on the 15th Feb, back on the 24th, so things are likely to go quiet for a bit. I should have internet connection through to Thursday (time zone will be about 7hrs behind) but after that I am taking a few days' leave and disappearing into the Amazon rainforest, so I will be about as incommunicado as it gets these days. I will pick up on things when I am back.
Alec
Post by: Big-chris on February 09, 2020, 07:07:12 PM
Post by: fire3500 on February 09, 2020, 11:40:54 PM
Post by: A-Ro on February 09, 2020, 11:54:55 PM
Post by: PaulR on February 13, 2020, 10:39:49 PM
Post by: agg221 on February 13, 2020, 11:41:31 PM
(we are also there for looms)
I will pick up on the payment side, hopefully in the next couple of days, otherwise it will have to wait until I am back.
With regard to screens being interchangeable on sides. No they are not because where the wire exits the glass it is held in with epoxy and this is to one side, so whilst you could fit it the other way around you would end up with the epoxy exposed or the wire at the wrong end. However, if anyone actually wants single screens, this can be done as part of the order - two identical single screens would be the same price as a pair.
I can also confirm that VAT will not apply for anyone having screens delivered outside the EU.
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on February 14, 2020, 08:53:26 AM
Post by: Wombat on February 14, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
Responded to your email, but please let me know if you need anything else.
KR
Mike
Post by: vegasbugeye on February 14, 2020, 06:24:05 PM
Please add me to the list for one set of heated screens and one wiring loom.
Thanks and Kind Regards.
sc
Post by: 2aornot2a on February 16, 2020, 07:13:35 PM
Post by: skeeball on February 19, 2020, 12:40:27 AM
Post by: robin60 on February 19, 2020, 01:54:53 AM
I would like to order a pair of screens and one wiring loom please.
LHD 1960 Series 2
Best
Rob S
Post by: Chuckc4 on February 19, 2020, 01:47:22 PM
Thanks,
Chuck
Post by: BeeDeeCee on February 19, 2020, 07:50:41 PM
Post by: BeeDeeCee on February 19, 2020, 07:54:43 PM
Hi Alec... Heated Screens, Yes please, a pair for a 1966 2a RHD. Also a Wiring Loom. this is a deferent order.
Post by: GlenAnderson on February 24, 2020, 10:31:49 PM
Post by: agg221 on February 24, 2020, 11:25:40 PM
I am now back from the Amazon so once I have recovered from the jet-lag I will be in touch requesting details. I will also be starting to sort out payment in the next couple of days; I will hopefully get this completed within a couple of weeks and then I will place the order in early March.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Tom H on February 25, 2020, 09:00:09 AM
Is there a definitive guide to fitting and or/ recommended preparation/ primer /sealants to source etc?
Post by: Wittsend on February 25, 2020, 09:51:36 AM
Dumdum is no longer available :'(
There are some very good alternatives that I'm sure people on here can recommend.
Screwfix sell a good selection.
Since the notes were written....
Robin of this parish sells a combined relay timer that switches the screen(s) off after a set time, so you don't have to worry about leaving them on.
And, if you can, fit the screens, then lay the frame flat for a few days to allow the sealants to set fully. This should stop the glass sinking down into the bottom of the frame.
:window
Post by: Mike Att on February 25, 2020, 06:57:33 PM
Post by: MWAD7 on February 28, 2020, 12:47:56 PM
I have a Tropical roof fitted - is it ‘just’ a case of undoing any bolts along the front edge of the roof and then swinging the screen down as per a soft-top, or will I need to raise the roof to get the screen down?
Thanks.
Post by: Wittsend on February 28, 2020, 01:58:10 PM
Then I got a batten of wood and with a bottle jack (and another length of timber) on the passenger side floor - I jacked the front end of the roof up a fraction.
There's enough "give" in the system to do this.
You'll then find it easier to persuade the screen to fold down. The rubber sealing strip will probably be stuck and need freeing with a paint scraper.
You may want to replace with a new rubber sealing strip.
(note: if you have a tilt, you can leave the shark's tooth rail in place, disconnect the door top rails and bring the whole lot inside to fit the electric screens.)
:window
Post by: MWAD7 on February 28, 2020, 06:21:08 PM
Post by: lightweightles on February 29, 2020, 11:30:39 PM
Post by: Old80 on March 01, 2020, 11:57:50 AM
Post by: agg221 on March 01, 2020, 12:34:21 PM
Nobody has missed the deadline - I flew back from Colombia and went straight back to work, so jet-lag meant I didn't get anything done in the evenings. I am pretty much recovered now so today I will be contacting people who have expressed an interest and also moving things forward with regard to payment.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Ferguson1947 on March 01, 2020, 09:15:33 PM
Post by: Ferguson1947 on March 01, 2020, 09:33:31 PM
Post by: Chuckc4 on March 01, 2020, 11:09:06 PM
Post by: cgalpin on March 02, 2020, 05:03:47 PM
Thanks
Post by: Philmicky on March 06, 2020, 01:01:33 PM
Post by: agg221 on March 07, 2020, 10:59:16 PM
I came back from Colombia and promptly picked up a heavy cold (not coronavirus!) and have also been working/travelling on business so it has taken me longer to get things moving than I anticipated. I have updated the list and contacted everyone who has expressed an interest to collate details.
The next step is to transcribe all the details collected for the 70 people onto a spreadsheet and starting to send out payment details. Once money has been collected the order will be placed. I would hope to get the spreadsheet together tomorrow and give it a couple of weeks to collect payment. Delivery is likely to be 5 weeks from order.
Alec
Post by: Big-chris on March 08, 2020, 01:00:11 AM
Post by: agg221 on March 08, 2020, 10:52:30 AM
:shakeinghead I haven’t been contacted ???
That's because I already have you on the list :-)
Alec
Post by: Big-chris on March 09, 2020, 12:44:26 AM
Post by: CaptainZ on March 09, 2020, 03:39:56 PM
Thank you for putting this together.
Post by: agg221 on March 09, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
I would love a set of heated windscreens and harness if I am not too late. However I’m in the USA (Texas). If shipping isn’t prohibitive I will purchase.
Thank you for putting this together.
You are not too late - I will put something up on this thread once you are!
Shipping a single set direct to an address in the US is £129. Shipping a batch of 5 sets to a single address will be around £80 a set. It may be worth genocache, vegasbugeye, Chuckc4, cgalpin and yourself having a PM discussion between you to see whether it is practical to arrange onward transport within the US from a single point of delivery.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: genocache on March 09, 2020, 10:39:44 PM
You are not too late - I will put something up on this thread once you are!
Shipping a single set direct to an address in the US is £129. Shipping a batch of 5 sets to a single address will be around £80 a set. It may be worth genocache, vegasbugeye, Chuckc4, cgalpin and yourself having a PM discussion between you to see whether it is practical to arrange onward transport within the US from a single point of delivery.
Cheers
Alec
Alec, thanks, do you have a shipping weight per set?
Post by: agg221 on March 10, 2020, 09:34:53 PM
Alec, thanks, do you have a shipping weight per set?
Hi Gene,
It will depend on how they are shipped. I can probably get a weight for a bare pair of screens, but the packaging needed will change for a single screen vs. a box-full, hence decreasing price to the US. If they were to be couriered within the US separate packaging would then be needed.
What weight would be useful to have?
Alec
Post by: genocache on March 13, 2020, 09:36:09 PM
Thanks Alec for all the hard work! :first :o
Post by: espacekiller on March 16, 2020, 11:01:58 PM
Thanks to those doing the organising :cheers
Located Otley just north of Leeds.
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on March 18, 2020, 08:30:27 PM
If I am not too late I would like a pair of screens (for one vehicle) please.
Thanks to those doing the organising :cheers
Located Otley just north of Leeds.
Do you want wiring as well?
Post by: espacekiller on March 23, 2020, 12:07:52 AM
Post by: agg221 on March 23, 2020, 12:09:14 AM
The screens are being made in Spain so I would imagine nothing much is happening for a while.
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on March 23, 2020, 07:24:47 PM
Yes, that will be fine.
The screens are being made in Spain so I would imagine nothing much is happening for a while.
Alec
That's a good point. I never give it a thought. There won't be much at all shipping around the world.
Post by: Megageoff on July 07, 2020, 05:55:07 PM
Post by: 582LTR on July 28, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
I was just wondering where we were with the group purchase of screens as the last thing I heard they had arrived in the country.
Again, this is just asking for information and is in no way a complaint.
Regards
Martin
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on July 28, 2020, 07:55:06 PM
Good afternoon, I realise there’s quite a lot going on with the world at the moment, and that it’s not urgent at this time of year.
I was just wondering where we were with the group purchase of screens as the last thing I heard they had arrived in the country.
Again, this is just asking for information and is in no way a complaint.
Regards
Martin
They're in the country?
Post by: 582LTR on July 28, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Martin
Post by: agg221 on July 28, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
I had the list transcribed onto Excel but there were a few late additions and I need to add them before payment details can be sent out. This wasn't a priority during lockdown as nothing was possible. In principle it should now be possible to sort everything out, however my employer has taken advantage of the furlough scheme, putting nearly half the delivery staff on it, but is trying to sustain the same output. This means I haven't thought about much except work since March (I did hit a 126hr working week at one point). Things are beginning to calm down a little, hence I have even managed to find time to mess up the restoration of two leaf springs and post a list of random bits of Land Rover, but I need to dig everything out, add the last few names and contact details and get it out so payment can start being made and distribution can start to happen.
Distribution is going to be more of a challenge than originally planned. The forum relay got everything on the mainland of Great Britain where it needed to be. However, people are travelling far less so this will need to be re-evaluated. I am sure something can be sorted out but I'm not sure quite how it will work at the moment.
Alec
Post by: 582LTR on July 28, 2020, 09:43:59 PM
Martin
Post by: Paul4978 on July 30, 2020, 12:41:21 AM
PM sent
Post by: Moogling on July 30, 2020, 10:10:39 AM
Is it too late to jump on the bandwagon?
PM sent
PM sent Paul!
Post by: Paul4978 on July 30, 2020, 10:23:31 AM
PM sent Paul!
Duly answered M
Post by: BigLee on August 16, 2020, 01:31:37 PM
Post by: dazs on August 16, 2020, 02:14:59 PM
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on August 16, 2020, 03:02:40 PM
I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to online banking, but with help I got through it. ??? :shakeinghead
Post by: Simeon on August 16, 2020, 07:58:08 PM
Just been online to pay for them.
I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to online banking, but with help I got through it. ??? :shakeinghead
Sorry Fluffle, your not alone there, I think I've paid for them! ???
On the delivery, where abouts are they going / who needs to deliver them / collect them ?
Thanks,
Simeon.
Post by: Sheppy on August 16, 2020, 08:18:36 PM
Just wondered where they are now, are they down South or up North?
Also I’m in South Wales, I’m visiting Southampton in September, can possibly pick some up for anyone in my area.
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on August 16, 2020, 10:08:18 PM
Post by: Paul4978 on August 16, 2020, 11:08:30 PM
I’ve paid also,
Just wondered where they are now, are they down South or up North?
Also I’m in South Wales, I’m visiting Southampton in September, can possibly pick some up for anyone in my area.
Hi Sheppy
I live in Penderyn - if you could pick mine up for me I'd be most grateful.
Cheers Paul
Post by: Sheppy on August 17, 2020, 06:06:03 AM
Hi SheppyNot sure where they are to be honest. If they are in Rutland then it’s the other opposite way to Southampton.
I live in Penderyn - if you could pick mine up for me I'd be most grateful.
Cheers Paul
Post by: Paul4978 on August 17, 2020, 06:43:20 AM
Not sure where they are to be honest. If they are in Rutland then it’s the other opposite way to Southampton.
Fair enough
See how it shapes up
I might even end up getting yours for you
Cheers Paul
Post by: Peter Holden on August 17, 2020, 07:28:47 AM
I am going to the Rutland camping weekend 18th to 20th September and Fluffle Valve will be there. If he can manage to organising collection of his I ma sure he would pick yours up too and I could bring them back north. Perhaps you need a conversation with Fluffle. If I am right they are in deepest Essex and Fluffle is in Northampton.
Peter
Post by: agg221 on August 17, 2020, 07:48:04 AM
The screens are currently near Birmingham. Direct collection can be made from there. A batch will also be shipped to Essex and direct collection can be made from there or Cambridge.
Beyond that, the forum relay will come into play with people collecting from one of those locations on behalf of others and moving them on, hopefully in one step, sometimes in two.
Anyone who wants them faster (or is overseas) can have them shipped by the supplier, directly from Birmingham.
Hope that clarifies.
Alec
Post by: Gibbo103 on August 17, 2020, 08:02:27 AM
Post by: agg221 on August 17, 2020, 08:14:43 AM
I travel through Cambridge virtually every weekend going between Milton Keynes and North Norfolk, so happy to relay anywhere between
Thanks - that will definitely help.
The other question I haven’t answered is Rutland. Yes, the plan is if possible to get screens to Rutland for people attending and onward relay. Not quite sure on the logistics for this yet.
Alec
Post by: Simeon on August 17, 2020, 10:55:57 AM
Simeon
I am going to the Rutland camping weekend 18th to 20th September and Fluffle Valve will be there. If he can manage to organising collection of his I ma sure he would pick yours up too and I could bring them back north. Perhaps you need a conversation with Fluffle. If I am right they are in deepest Essex and Fluffle is in Northampton.
Peter
Thanks Peter, I can collect them from you then.
Simeon.
Post by: Noddy on August 17, 2020, 11:17:50 AM
Alec Hill
Post by: Peter Holden on August 17, 2020, 11:37:58 AM
Peter
Post by: Alice B on August 17, 2020, 04:01:05 PM
People will get their screens but the forum relay will take longer to organise due to reduced travel.
The screens are currently near Birmingham. Direct collection can be made from there. A batch will also be shipped to Essex and direct collection can be made from there or Cambridge.
Beyond that, the forum relay will come into play with people collecting from one of those locations on behalf of others and moving them on, hopefully in one step, sometimes in two.
Anyone who wants them faster (or is overseas) can have them shipped by the supplier, directly from Birmingham.
Hope that clarifies.
Alec
Do you know what the cost would be to have them shipped by the supplier to Inverness. Just its a little too far to drive to Birmingham for me
Post by: Alan Drover on August 17, 2020, 04:56:06 PM
Do you know what the cost would be to have them shipped by the supplier to Inverness. Just its a little too far to drive to Birmingham for meI don't know if this helps but I bought my screens from Devon 4x4 and the cost of shipping to me was £42 as they were shipped in Devon's purpose built container and the carrier would not accept any responsibility for breakage. They arrived safely in the crate.
Post by: agg221 on August 17, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
Do you know what the cost would be to have them shipped by the supplier to Inverness. Just its a little too far to drive to Birmingham for me
I can get you a figure next week, but I think you may be in luck in getting them a lot closer. I need to see how things drop into place over the next few days but if the original plan on this will still work then all the screens for Scotland should run nicely up the M6/M74 to Glasgow and then on up to Perth and across to Edinburgh. I can't remember the precise details for Inverness offhand but I don't think it was too bad.
Alec
Post by: Alice B on August 17, 2020, 08:01:30 PM
I can get you a figure next week, but I think you may be in luck in getting them a lot closer. I need to see how things drop into place over the next few days but if the original plan on this will still work then all the screens for Scotland should run nicely up the M6/M74 to Glasgow and then on up to Perth and across to Edinburgh. I can't remember the precise details for Inverness offhand but I don't think it was too bad.
Alec
Thanks Alec
Alice
Post by: Alice B on August 21, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
Thanks Alec
Alice
If the windscreens can get to Perth, then I can come south and Pick them up from there as well as anyothers for the North Highlands. Hope this helps
Alice
Post by: Big-chris on August 21, 2020, 11:19:21 PM
Post by: Paul4978 on August 28, 2020, 09:08:18 AM
I could also drop off Sheppy's in Abergavenny on the way home
Cheers Paul
Post by: Sheppy on August 28, 2020, 09:18:45 AM
Post by: kev on August 28, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
Post by: Rory on August 28, 2020, 12:26:02 PM
Post by: agg221 on August 28, 2020, 01:28:12 PM
Now I am back from holiday it's a bit easier to type an explanation of the plan for distribution.
The plan is very simple in principle, but due to people's reduced travel it is much more complicated in practice. The principle is as follows:
All the screens are currently at the supplier in Redditch. Andy has been collecting payment and once all payments are received he will transfer the money to the supplier. At that point, screens can be moved. Getting screens to people is based on four routes:
1. People picking up screens directly from Redditch. This will be from the supplier, by arrangement, during office hours. The supplier will have a list of names/details of who has paid and wishes to pick up that way, and will tick them off the list when you pick them up. They are also happy to hold the associated looms so Robin will post them there to be picked up at the same time.
2. Some people are able to pick up extra screens and take them back with them for others in the same area, or people who pass through that area, e.g. some of the screens will be picked up by Person A from the supplier and taken as a batch to Bristol. Other people from Bristol will collect from Person A directly. Other people who drive down the M4 e.g. to South Wales and Southampton may drop by Person A and pick up both their screens and screens for others on the same route and either drop them off, or people come to them to collect. There is a similar route which sees screens heading up to Scotland that appears to be in place, along with several others.
3. A batch of screens that don't connect via these routes will be shipped to me in Essex (and I also regularly visit Cambridge and North Kent). I will get these out in small batches when either I travel somewhere relevant, or someone travelling near here can connect with me and take them on. I travel on business to most parts of the UK and although this is a lot less frequent at the moment, I will still need to be in various places over the next few months including Rocester, The Wirrall and Sheffield and I am sure other needs will arise.
4. Finally, for people who either can't wait while the above happens or are outside the mainland of the UK, direct shipping is an option. It is not cheap but it is realistic given that this is fully insured shipping of glass in dedicated specialist packaging.
You may recall that I originally asked everyone by email where they are in the country, where they travel to and whether they could hold on to any screens. I am working out all the logistics around this. I am aware that there will have been some changes so will double-check before putting anything in place. I am also aware that Rutland may make a good trans-shipment point so am trying to get everything in place to make sure that is an option for people where relevant. In that context it would be very useful if anyone who is heading to Rutland and may be able to help could drop me a PM. What I need to know is:
Is there anyone who can pick up screens from Redditch, probably alongside their own screens, and deliver them to Rutland?
Is there anyone who can pick up screens from Essex/Cambridge (or relatively near so I can bring them to you) and deliver them to Rutland?
Would you prefer to pick up your own screens from Rutland?
Could you take some other screens back with you for people in your area? If so, where are you heading home to?
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on August 28, 2020, 03:34:39 PM
Hi All,
Now I am back from holiday it's a bit easier to type an explanation of the plan for distribution.
The plan is very simple in principle, but due to people's reduced travel it is much more complicated in practice. The principle is as follows:
All the screens are currently at the supplier in Redditch. Andy has been collecting payment and once all payments are received he will transfer the money to the supplier. At that point, screens can be moved. Getting screens to people is based on four routes:
1. People picking up screens directly from Redditch. This will be from the supplier, by arrangement, during office hours. The supplier will have a list of names/details of who has paid and wishes to pick up that way, and will tick them off the list when you pick them up. They are also happy to hold the associated looms so Robin will post them there to be picked up at the same time.
2. Some people are able to pick up extra screens and take them back with them for others in the same area, or people who pass through that area, e.g. some of the screens will be picked up by Person A from the supplier and taken as a batch to Bristol. Other people from Bristol will collect from Person A directly. Other people who drive down the M4 e.g. to South Wales and Southampton may drop by Person A and pick up both their screens and screens for others on the same route and either drop them off, or people come to them to collect. There is a similar route which sees screens heading up to Scotland that appears to be in place, along with several others.
3. A batch of screens that don't connect via these routes will be shipped to me in Essex (and I also regularly visit Cambridge and North Kent). I will get these out in small batches when either I travel somewhere relevant, or someone travelling near here can connect with me and take them on. I travel on business to most parts of the UK and although this is a lot less frequent at the moment, I will still need to be in various places over the next few months including Rocester, The Wirrall and Sheffield and I am sure other needs will arise.
4. Finally, for people who either can't wait while the above happens or are outside the mainland of the UK, direct shipping is an option. It is not cheap but it is realistic given that this is fully insured shipping of glass in dedicated specialist packaging.
You may recall that I originally asked everyone by email where they are in the country, where they travel to and whether they could hold on to any screens. I am working out all the logistics around this. I am aware that there will have been some changes so will double-check before putting anything in place. I am also aware that Rutland may make a good trans-shipment point so am trying to get everything in place to make sure that is an option for people where relevant. In that context it would be very useful if anyone who is heading to Rutland and may be able to help could drop me a PM. What I need to know is:
Is there anyone who can pick up screens from Redditch, probably alongside their own screens, and deliver them to Rutland?
Is there anyone who can pick up screens from Essex/Cambridge (or relatively near so I can bring them to you) and deliver them to Rutland?
Would you prefer to pick up your own screens from Rutland?
Could you take some other screens back with you for people in your area? If so, where are you heading home to?
Cheers
Alec
Sent you a PM earlier about collection. :tiphat
Post by: Peter Holden on August 28, 2020, 05:35:03 PM
Although I am not part of the order I have agreed to collect Simeon's screens from the Rutland weekend and bring them back to Lancashire where he will collect from me.
If there are anymore orders from Lancashire I can bring them back too.
Peter
Post by: espacekiller on September 02, 2020, 04:24:25 PM
Post by: Robin on September 02, 2020, 05:33:45 PM
Hi can I just check if I am on the list to receive screens? (I thought I had asked and don't want to be owing money for them)
I can't see you on the list I have (from Alec's master list).
However, I do know that there may be some spares if you're still interested - just let Alec know (agg221) if you want a set.
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: espacekiller on September 02, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Post by: Robin on September 02, 2020, 07:53:44 PM
We've had an offer from BigChris to collect some from the supplier in/near Birmingham and bring them up to my place (near M62 J31).
Hopefully folk will collect from here or from the Wakefield pub meets, which should be starting again soon :cheers
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: espacekiller on September 02, 2020, 09:08:03 PM
Post by: Petunia on September 03, 2020, 06:55:36 PM
I could pick my screens up either from Cambridge or Rutland whichever works better. I'm on the A14/A1 junction if that helps anyone with a relay?
Best wishes
Petunia
Post by: Rory on September 07, 2020, 07:27:58 AM
Obviously I’d prefer to pick up closer to home but needs must when the devil vomits in your kettle.
Post by: Alan on September 07, 2020, 09:14:31 AM
I can and am willing to travel up to Reddich to pickup my screens. I will be in an Astra estate so I’ll have space to bring more down as far as Yeovil and I have secure storage for them.
Rory, if you can bring my set down as far as Yeovil I am happy to pick them up from you. I am happy to transport other sets to Tavistock, Devon if there are others who would like to pick them up from me.
Alan
Post by: Rory on September 07, 2020, 09:25:51 AM
Rory, if you can bring my set down as far as Yeovil I am happy to pick them up from you. I am happy to transport other sets to Tavistock, Devon if there are others who would like to pick them up from me.
Alan
Once somebody gives me info on when and where I’ll sort out picking them up.
Post by: Wombat on September 08, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
Many thanks
Mike
Post by: agg221 on September 08, 2020, 11:41:59 AM
I had a discussion with the supplier yesterday, who is now back. He will issue me with an invoice for the first 50 sets (which have been paid for).
The invoice will also confirm details for arranging collection.
The screens are supplied with bullet connectors but these are being fitted in the UK due to a supply chain issue with the bullets. The person who will do this has been on furlough, but will be brought back in next week to make up the connectors and inspect the screens. This will take up to a couple of weeks.
Robin will need to send a batch of looms to the supplier, to go out with the screens being collected.
This means that realistically it would be possible to start collecting screens in the latter half of next week, say the 17th.
The remainder of screens which will go out through forum relay starting with me will be shipped in my direction. This can't happen until we close payment (as only one batch will be shipped to me). We are still waiting to hear back from around 15 people who requested screens but have not replied to Andy's email. It will help everyone if people could do this asap.
What this means in the short-term:
Rutland - if there is anyone who can pick up screens directly from Redditch next Thursday or Friday and get them to Rutland then that is practical. However, nobody has yet indicated that they are able to do this. Given the timeframe, the screens cannot get to Rutland having been shipped to me first. It would also be necessary for anyone who would prefer to get their screens at Rutland (or picked up for them by someone who is going) to confirm this as otherwise there is no idea on numbers.
Pick-up in person of your own personal screens but nobody else's: this is pretty much possible from next Thursday - watch this space for details.
Pick up as part of the relay: I need to cross-match all the screens, looms and locations. This is a major logistical exercise. It will be done before the screens are ready, but I need to cross-check the information to make sure all screens have a route to their destination. Therefore, if you are picking up in person and would be able to pick up screens for others at the same time, please could you hold off on arranging this until after the 20th so that I can make sure we take advantage of all opportunities to get screens moved.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on September 08, 2020, 12:40:37 PM
If possible, I can collect any screens going to Rutland on or before the 16th September? So either the 14th, 15th, 16th. Anytime during the day on the 16th would be good? I'll need the evening to pack them into my Landy ready for the morning trip to Rutland. I would also like to collect my own from Redditch.
Also, I can collect some screens on the 22nd/23rd September that need to go to Devils Bridge for collection over the weekend. I'll be at Devils bridge on the afternoon of the 24th till the morning of the 27th. Then I'm off home at around midday. If you live in the area of Devils Bridge or a decent drive from it and you want to collect from there, then let me know as soon as possible. I don't mind doing the trip to Redditch for the collection.
Post by: agg221 on September 08, 2020, 01:14:17 PM
I'll be on my way to Rutland on the 17th September and setting up camp by midday. Collecting on the 17th is a day late for me. I do believe that most folk that are going to Rutland will be going on the 17th?
If possible, I can collect any screens going to Rutland on or before the 16th September? So either the 14th, 15th, 16th. Anytime during the day on the 16th would be good? I'll need the evening to pack them into my Landy ready for the morning trip to Rutland. I would also like to collect my own from Redditch.
Also, I can collect some screens on the 22nd/23rd September that need to go to Devils Bridge for collection over the weekend. I'll be at Devils bridge on the afternoon of the 24th till the morning of the 27th. Then I'm off home at around midday. If you live in the area of Devils Bridge or a decent drive from it and you want to collect from there, then let me know as soon as possible. I don't mind doing the trip to Redditch for the collection.
Rory - the screens you are collecting - it should be straightforward to get them as far as Bristol if that helps?
Thanks for the two offers here. I suggest that anyone who wants to pick up screens from you at Rutland or Devil's Bridge makes contact with you directly by PM. You can then confirm numbers and let me know which screens are going out that way. Anyone who wants to do this will need to let Fluffle-Valve know by the end of Sunday as the supplier needs 48hrs notice to ensure someone is on site and the screens are set aside and ready to go.
Robin, can you get the looms to Redditch in time?
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Robin on September 08, 2020, 01:39:22 PM
Robin, can you get the looms to Redditch in time?
I should be able to, though I'll need an updated list of who's paid for the looms.
The last list I had from Andy was 28th Aug, Batch03.
If I have the updated list, and an address and contact for the Redditch site, I can get them sent off to arrive by Monday, I think :cheers
Of course, there are still folk who haven't confirmed or paid, so I can only send down the ones I know about :stars
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: Big-chris on September 09, 2020, 02:50:24 AM
Will wait for further instruction :tiphat
Post by: Robin on September 09, 2020, 11:28:41 AM
We were hoping folk would be able to come to the Wakefield pub meet to collect, but with the latest Covid-19 restrictions I don't think we can restart the pub meets for a while yet :'(
However, as Chris says, they can be collected from my place, within a mile of J31 M62 (Normanton/Castleford junction), as long as Chris knows who he is collecting for.
Robin.
Post by: agg221 on September 09, 2020, 01:57:32 PM
Thanks
Alec
Post by: espacekiller on September 09, 2020, 05:45:55 PM
Post by: BigLee on September 09, 2020, 07:47:35 PM
Thanks to volunteers getting all this organised.
Cheers Lee.
Post by: Paul4978 on September 10, 2020, 08:56:33 AM
I can pick up Sheppy's and drop it off on my way home. I don't know if there are any others in S Wales who would like to pick up from mine.
I've already got my loom, many thanks Robin.
I just need to know when and where - I understand its after the 20th
cheers
Paul
Post by: lightweightles on September 17, 2020, 02:26:25 PM
Post by: Robin on September 17, 2020, 03:33:39 PM
Loom arrived this morning... thanks Robin … cheers Les.
No problem Les.
Let's hope your screens make there way up to you soon as well :cheers
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: angello on September 19, 2020, 09:40:08 PM
Is there any plan yet on 'forum relay'? or maybe screens relaying to 'club areas'? I am hoping my screens can make it to Thames Valley area.... or possibly to to 4x4 spares day at Newbury on the 4th October?
Post by: Alan Drover on September 20, 2020, 07:49:53 AM
Post by: Daveincov on September 20, 2020, 10:15:26 AM
Post by: agg221 on September 20, 2020, 12:11:03 PM
Happy to collect mine from Reddich as it's pretty close.
Hi Dave,
I have been sorting out the logistics of the relay this morning (I will be in contact with other groups shortly).
You, Noddy, dpuzey and ROL are all in/can pick up from Coventry so form a group. Could I leave it to you to pick up with the other three and see whether you can fit something together? Please could you let me know the outcome as then I know what I can tick off.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: agg221 on September 20, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
I have my natty loom, which is great (thanks Robin!), just the screens to come now....
Is there any plan yet on 'forum relay'? or maybe screens relaying to 'club areas'? I am hoping my screens can make it to Thames Valley area.... or possibly to to 4x4 spares day at Newbury on the 4th October?
There are a couple of options for yours. One is that there is a planned delivery run up the M4 from Bristol; the other is that there may be someone heading to Newbury from Bristol for the spares day.
Alec
Post by: Simeon on September 21, 2020, 08:26:44 PM
Are my heated screens in Birmingham? Or if not can some one let me know where/how to get them.
I'm sorry to let this get passed my radar, but there has been no slow down for me, not even had a day off.
Simeon.
:'(
Post by: agg221 on September 21, 2020, 09:02:02 PM
Hi everyone
Are my heated screens in Birmingham? Or if not can some one let me know where/how to get them.
I'm sorry to let this get passed my radar, but there has been no slow down for me, not even had a day off.
Simeon.
:'(
Hi Simeon,
You should have had a couple of emails on this yesterday. They can get to Stoke on Trent or Malpas if you can pick up from there?
Alec
Post by: Simeon on September 21, 2020, 09:20:25 PM
Thanks, Malpas is a bit easier for me.
Can you point me to who I would need to ask.
Thank you, Simeon.
Post by: agg221 on September 21, 2020, 09:32:47 PM
Hi Alec,
Thanks, Malpas is a bit easier for me.
Can you point me to who I would need to ask.
Thank you, Simeon.
Mike Tait
Post by: angello on September 22, 2020, 08:01:22 AM
Angello, Newbury spares day is 18th October. Mark told me he had to move the date because of work at the nearby M4 junction.:agh I hadn't clocked that the date had changed! Thank you for the heads up :cheers New date noted.
There are a couple of options for yours. One is that there is a planned delivery run up the M4 from Bristol; the other is that there may be someone heading to Newbury from Bristol for the spares day.Aha! :big_idea I would appreciate being included in the delivery run up the M4 from Bristol if possible :first
Alec
IF someone is going to 4x4 spares day at Newbury with screens on board and it's easy for them, I'd also happily collect there. Whatever works best for the majority.
Post by: Tenbellies on September 22, 2020, 12:40:35 PM
Atb les
Post by: Sheppy on September 22, 2020, 01:40:36 PM
Thanks
D
Post by: Paul4978 on September 22, 2020, 02:08:03 PM
I will as soon as I can
Cheers Paul
Post by: Paul4978 on September 22, 2020, 02:15:18 PM
Paul4978 you have a pm
Atb les
PM back atcha
Post by: Paul4978 on September 22, 2020, 02:15:41 PM
Is anyone coming past Abergavenny with screens ?
Thanks
D
PMd you
Post by: Sheppy on September 22, 2020, 03:56:54 PM
Post by: agg221 on September 22, 2020, 04:08:45 PM
Terry Coughlan (Old80) is in Herefordshire and is happy to pick up from Bromsgrove. This may fit in with your relay plans, depending on route. Could you check and confirm either way as that will complete this part of the country.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Sheppy on September 22, 2020, 04:20:10 PM
That would be good for me, I could collect from Bromsgrove and relay any back to Abergavenny that people want to collect.
Cheers
Dean
Just checked and bromesgrove is a bit of a trek for me, not sure if I can get enough time from work to get there, would he be coming from Birmingham way or up from Hereford way?
Thanks
D
Post by: Paul4978 on September 22, 2020, 05:41:09 PM
I'm a bit stuck atm until covid lets up in RCT, but if my screens could make their way to Hereford or Abergavenny I could pick up from either. Abergavenny would be easier
Cheers Paul
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on September 22, 2020, 10:20:48 PM
Hi Alec, Les and Sheppy,
I'm a bit stuck atm until covid lets up in RCT, but if my screens could make their way to Hereford or Abergavenny I could pick up from either. Abergavenny would be easier
Cheers Paul
I was in the RCT in the late 1970's.
Post by: Paul4978 on September 22, 2020, 10:28:19 PM
I was in the RCT in the late 1970's.
:-X :-X RN 80s and 90s myself
Post by: Old80 on September 23, 2020, 03:01:14 PM
When I collect my screens from Bromsgrove I am quite prepared to collect screens for other members that live in Herefordshire and surrounding areas, I live near Bromyard but would be prepared to deliver to Hay on Wye (meet on main car park) to help anyone coming from Wales.
Old80
Post by: agg221 on September 23, 2020, 03:13:15 PM
Hi All
When I collect my screens from Bromsgrove I am quite prepared to collect screens for other members that live in Herefordshire and surrounding areas, I live near Bromyard but would be prepared to deliver to Hay on Wye (meet on main car park) to help anyone coming from Wales.
Old80
Thanks for the offer - there are only the four of you in this general area so the question is whether it helps if you collect for the other three, or whether it's easier if you collect your own, and Les collects for the other three. Let me know which works best I will set things up with the supplier.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Sheppy on September 23, 2020, 05:09:17 PM
Hi AllI can meet you in Hay if you like and bring some back to Abergavenny if it helps anyone else?
When I collect my screens from Bromsgrove I am quite prepared to collect screens for other members that live in Herefordshire and surrounding areas, I live near Bromyard but would be prepared to deliver to Hay on Wye (meet on main car park) to help anyone coming from Wales.
Old80
Thanks
D
Post by: Paul4978 on September 23, 2020, 05:19:53 PM
I can meet you in Hay if you like and bring some back to Abergavenny if it helps anyone else?
Thanks
D
That would be great if you could, Dean, and I could pick mine up from you when the lockdown eases. If that's ok with you
Cheers, Paul
Post by: Sheppy on September 23, 2020, 05:39:12 PM
Post by: Old80 on September 23, 2020, 05:48:29 PM
So as we stand I am collecting for myself, Dean & Paul, now I just need to know if Les would like me to collect his and meet up at Hay on Wye or whether he wishes to collect his own from Bromsgrove.....over to you Les.
Post by: Paul4978 on September 23, 2020, 07:07:57 PM
Post by: agg221 on September 23, 2020, 08:30:26 PM
So as we stand I am collecting for myself, Dean & Paul, now I just need to know if Les would like me to collect his and meet up at Hay on Wye or whether he wishes to collect his own from Bromsgrove.....over to you Les.
Or Les could collect from Dean in Abergavenny?
Post by: Tenbellies on September 23, 2020, 11:31:06 PM
Les
Post by: Sheppy on September 24, 2020, 07:44:12 AM
D
Post by: Paul4978 on September 24, 2020, 07:47:13 AM
Thanks Les
Post by: Old80 on September 24, 2020, 10:28:40 AM
Terry 👍
Post by: agg221 on September 24, 2020, 10:34:06 AM
Thanks Les, I will just collect my own.
Terry 👍
Terry, I think Les was proposing to collect from you in Bromyard, rather than directly from Bromsgrove (see thread above).
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Old80 on September 24, 2020, 11:15:40 AM
Terry
Post by: agg221 on September 24, 2020, 11:39:24 AM
Oops sorry guys misread the message, ok Les I will collect all four sets when I get notification and you can collect from mine thanks for the offer. And thanks Alec.
Terry
Terry, if you check your emails you should see this is now set up for you to make contact with the supplier and arrange at your convenience.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Tenbellies on September 24, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
In my infinite wisdom my loom will also be at the screen supplier (I think/hope)if terry can pick it up as well will be grateful.
Terry I will send you pm with my phone and email
Atb les
Post by: Sheppy on September 28, 2020, 08:18:48 PM
I can pick up from Bromyard save terry a trip to hay I am just o/side Abergavenny drop off sheppys on way thru and arrange with Paul to meet up.all COVID dependant of courseHi Les,
Les
Are you still ok to collect these?
Thanks
D
Post by: Tenbellies on September 28, 2020, 10:43:03 PM
Will be picking up from terry tomorrow afternoon been a bit busy earlier.will send you pm with contact details to arrange delivery to you
Atb les
Post by: Paul4978 on September 28, 2020, 10:48:10 PM
Could one of you hang on to mine for a while please? (I've already got my loom).
I'll head down the A465 once the lockdown is lifted
Cheers Paul
Post by: Tenbellies on September 28, 2020, 10:52:27 PM
No problem will be picking up from terry tomorrow afternoon will pm you tomorrow evening
Atb les
Post by: Paul4978 on September 28, 2020, 10:53:54 PM
Hi PaulThanks Les
No problem will be picking up from terry tomorrow afternoon will pm you tomorrow evening
Atb les
Cheers Paul
Post by: Sheppy on September 29, 2020, 06:39:17 AM
Thanks
Dean
Post by: Sheppy on September 29, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
Hi Dean and LesPaul where do you live? I work in Blaenau Gwent so could drop them off or meet you if you like?
Could one of you hang on to mine for a while please? (I've already got my loom).
I'll head down the A465 once the lockdown is lifted
Cheers Paul
D
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Post by: Ajstars on September 29, 2020, 10:22:30 PM
Post by: Hopeydaze on September 30, 2020, 08:59:13 AM
Does anyone know who i should contact? I'm based mostly in Bath although work means I am often in Reading - if this is relevant
Post by: JonA on September 30, 2020, 09:08:51 AM
I'm based near Cheddar, but frequently in Bristol and Bath.
have some space for storage if it helps with relaying south / west from me.
Post by: agg221 on September 30, 2020, 09:18:35 AM
I've been a bit lazy about this - I've paid for a pair of screens and loom. I have the loom (thanks), however I haven't done anything about arranging collection/delivery of the screens.
Does anyone know who i should contact? I'm based mostly in Bath although work means I am often in Reading - if this is relevant
The SW grouping is the next one to go forward. I am waiting on one remaining payment to go through (Andy needs to send Neil the payment details).
It is very useful that you are often in Reading - there is a set to get to Thatcham which had been causing me some head scratching, particularly now that Newbury is cancelled.
There is also a sort of extension group in Wiltshire/the New Forest/Surrey which I need to figure out, but if we don't go into deeper lockdown by October 14th I may be able to resolve that one.
Alec
Post by: Tenbellies on September 30, 2020, 11:55:23 AM
Picked mine up from terry yesterday along with deans & Paul’s.my thanks to the members who organised the purchasing and ordering etc,lovely job :-*.Paul I have yours in storage until you are able to organise something due to your lockdown.nice to meet you terry must try to keep in touch and you dean
Atb les
Post by: Sheppy on September 30, 2020, 12:27:19 PM
Thanks
D
Post by: Will Buck on September 30, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
PS - does the relay that I bought along with the screens include a timer?
Post by: Robin on September 30, 2020, 09:02:46 PM
PS - does the relay that I bought along with the screens include a timer?
Yes - it is a combined timer/relay - on for 10 minutes.
You should have the instructions for the wiring in the bag the wiring kit came in, with operating instructions as well.
These screens are different to the last group buy, with the wires protruding from a different place in the glass, I think ??? so unless someone has already fitted their new screens and is willing to advise, then it's a "suck it and see" job :tiphat
It should be fairly obvious once you place the new screens in the frames - I suspect you will just need to trim a bit off each end of the lower aluminium angle trim.
It's best to remove your screen frame from the vehicle completely, and do the work on a table protected by a thick blanket or cardboard.
There were plenty of posts and advice on the old forum from the last group buy - I wonder if Wittsend might be able to re-post some of the pertinent ones on here?
One of the most important checks though, was to make sure any proud welds on the inside corners of the frame are ground down flush - some folk who missed that found the screens cracked when tightening the screws in the aluminium trim >:(
Robin.
Post by: Wittsend on September 30, 2020, 09:23:52 PM
The job is best done flat on the kitchen table.
You need to check and make sure there are no raised bits or globs of galvanising that can press on a point on the glass.
Grind them flat. This will help stop the glass cracking if it's under strain from the alloy retaining strips.
I use a few of those foam packers/spacer that come with the screens to distance the glass off the bottom of the frame.
Or, you can use a few short strips of ¼" x ¼" balsa wood.
The spacers keep the glass from moving down under its own weight.
Each screen has a "common" bus top and bottom. Depending on your preference you can jiggle/position the screen so the silver foil bus is even top to bottom, or more to the top, or more to the bottom.
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/heated_screen_common_bus.jpg)
(Not sure if I've explained this very well. When you test fit the screens you'll see what I mean.)
Back in the day we used DumDum - sadly no longer with us, but the odd tin does turn up on eBay - this stuff lasts for years :first
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/dumdum.gif)
I think nowadays you can use a silicon mastic (Silkaflex EBT (https://www.screwfix.com/p/sika-sikaflex-ebt-all-weather-sealant-black-300ml/79299)) as used for gutters etc. It sets but still has a little give.
On the alloy retainers you should use the Land Rover rubber glazing strip (pn: 330914), it helps spread the load.
Screw the strips down evenly and don't gorilla tighten them down.
Keep the screen flat for a couple of days to let the sealant harden off properly before fitting the screen.
Use a model craft knife/razor blade to trim away any excess sealant that has oozed out of the from - particularly on the outside face of the screen.
Use a good glass cleaner - Windolene :first to clean off any finger prints and use RainX treatment on the outside face of the screen to repel rainwater.
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/screen-1.jpg)
I've fitted 3 sets of screens like this and had no problems so far - touch wood.
Each screen draws about 8.5 amps.
I solder an earthing ring tag to the wire tail that exits the glass to the outside of the vehicle.
Here's one I did earlier:-
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/screen_clamp.jpg)
The 2 centre screen wire tails can be lead centrally down the back of the dash and it then depends if you are wiring/switching them separately or jointly and/or using Robin's timer relay system.
:window
Post by: Robin on September 30, 2020, 10:08:12 PM
Post by: agg221 on September 30, 2020, 10:49:11 PM
If there are any more screens available I would love a pair - based near Gatwick.
There may be - I'll keep you informed.
Alec
Post by: Sheppy on October 01, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
I’m guessing it doesn’t matter which connection you put the pos or neg to on the screen?
Thanks
D
Post by: Wittsend on October 01, 2020, 03:22:11 PM
I earth the outers to each end of the bulkhead and feed 12V to the inner/central leads from whatever switching or relays you care to use.
:window
Post by: Sheppy on October 01, 2020, 03:31:03 PM
D
Post by: Will Buck on October 03, 2020, 06:19:11 PM
Post by: A-Ro on October 06, 2020, 10:19:54 AM
I've been a bit lazy about this - I've paid for a pair of screens and loom. I have the loom (thanks), however I haven't done anything about arranging collection/delivery of the screens.
Does anyone know who i should contact? I'm based mostly in Bath although work means I am often in Reading - if this is relevant
I live in Oxford and I travel to Bromsgrove twice a month on average, I’ve picked some screens up already for other people so if picking up from Oxford is of any use to anyone then give me a shout.
Post by: agg221 on October 06, 2020, 10:53:09 AM
Most screens have been paid for an delivery routes arranged.
Screens have to be batched by region for the relay to work. People are not likely to go back and get more screens so it all has to flow in one single step.
I am waiting on Andy re-sending the payment instructions to Neil (Forest2a) as the original instructions went to the wrong email address.
Once these have gone out and Neil has made payment, all screens in the South are ready to start making their way out.
I have identified who is where and how screens can end up where they should be, so as soon as the above is ready, I will make contact and start things moving.
Alec
Post by: Robin on October 06, 2020, 11:40:36 AM
Partly because of delays in the bulk buy procedure (due to CV-19), some folk who originally wanted to go on the list for screens with wiring kits pulled out of the final buy.
That means I'm left with several wiring kits unsold.
Before I think about putting them on ebay etc. (have you seen the prices of similar kits on there :agh) I'm offering them again to those who have bought screens and didn't buy the wiring kits, or to anyone else in the club who wants/needs a kit.
The kits include everything you need to connect your new screens to your vehicle, and include a 10 minute timer.
Pushing the button will switch on the screens for 10 minutes, illuminating the button. If the screens clear quickly you can push the button again and the screens (and button) will switch off. If the screens haven't cleared, you can push the button again for another 10 minute cycle.
This kit will help keep your battery drain down - the screens take about 18A per pair, so with headlights, wipers and heater on the last thing you want is to leave the screens on for longer than you have to in the depths of winter!
Different kits are available for negative and positive earth vehicles - the wiring is different but they work in the same way.
The price is £32 including postage for a kit with the black button (needs a 16mm hole) or £33.50 for a kit with the chrome button (12mm hole).
(http://www.rms1.co.uk/landy/temp/switches.jpg)
Let me know if you want more details, or want a kit.
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: Forest2a on October 06, 2020, 04:44:20 PM
Post by: Robin on October 06, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
Alec - I’m ready and willing to pay but still haven’t received details as to how I should do this. Have checked my ‘junk’ mailbox but can’t see anything. If you or Andy would care to send a PM via the website with payment details I will make a transfer PDQ. Regards, Neil
I've copied the original payment email from Andy to your PM.
Hopefully that will sort things out :cheers
Post by: agg221 on October 06, 2020, 08:55:18 PM
Everyone who has paid for screens should now have heard from me either via the forum or via email regarding the delivery plan.
If you haven't, please shout!
I know about the screens which went via Rutland, Robin, up the M6 and on to Scotland, down to Wales via Herefordshire and to Will Buck. If you receive your screens via another pick-up/relay route, please could you let me know so that I can cross them off the list.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Sheppy on October 08, 2020, 09:02:05 AM
Cheers
D
Post by: MWAD7 on October 08, 2020, 02:30:06 PM
I haven’t managed to find anything by that part number online - and my parts book doesn’t list anything other than the metal retainers....
Can anyone point me/us towards a suitable alternative?
Thanks.
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
From Blanchard's.
I reckoned I'd need 3
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
Windcsreen to Bulkhead Seal Genuine 395431 330877 G 330877 G 1 £9.95 £9.95
Windscreen to Roof Seal Genuine 395431 MTC6960 G MTC6960 G 1 £9.95 £9.95
Post by: MWAD7 on October 08, 2020, 02:50:12 PM
However, much as a fan I am of PAB (they sourced my NOS steering relay that made such a difference and allayed fears of dodgy blue-box jobs), are PAB’s rubber products zillion-year-old NOS or not?
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 02:52:23 PM
Post by: MWAD7 on October 08, 2020, 03:07:37 PM
So does is the glazing strip fitted to both sides, all the way around (sandwiching the glass and frame (or retainers))?
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 03:09:58 PM
sticky sealant between glass and frame, spacers between lower edge of glass, and the frame to stop gravitational slip IIRC
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MSBKJNV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_Z4XFFbNSAZE65
Although there have been other suggestions onhere, and I haven't done the job yet
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 03:20:19 PM
auction: #282466251711Post by: Robin on October 08, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
And I thought a pack of these would be good insurance against losing, breaking, chewing up any of the old ones
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11401.m43.l5919/7?euid=665e782c150b41b2824c088307c2391d&bu=43793154610&segname=11401&crd=20200910061459&osub=-1~1&ch=osgood&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fvod%3Ftransid%3D2174003795018%26itemid%3D282466251711%26qu%3D2&sojTags=bu=bu,ch=ch,segname=segname,crd=crd,url=loc,osub=osub
auction: #282466251711 :tiphat
Post by: Paul4978 on October 08, 2020, 03:33:34 PM
Post by: Sheppy on October 10, 2020, 10:39:29 AM
Thanks
D
Post by: Robin on October 10, 2020, 11:38:09 AM
I’ve fitted my relay and screens, they are working but I’ve noticed the light doesnt come on on the button it did work but not now?
Thanks
D
Hmmmm.... there's not much to go wrong with it - it's an LED, not as bulb so shouldn't 'blow'.
Are you getting 12V to the screens? If you look at the diagram, the LED in the switch is powered from the output from the timer/relay, and so if the screens are getting power it should be on.
Can you unplug the switch and check the pins are all there and not bent, and it is plugged together tightly?
Also check you've got a good earth from the timer/relay - pin 2, black wire which has/had a ring terminal on the end, though if that earth wasn't good you wouldn't get 12V at the screen terminal.
Let me know if you find anything and we'll sort out replacement if needed :cheers
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: Sheppy on October 10, 2020, 01:05:50 PM
Thanks
D
Post by: Sheppy on October 10, 2020, 01:55:34 PM
For anyone that hasn’t fitted their screens yet I’d say be careful not to bend the wiring just behind the switch, the wires are quite fine.
This is probably what I did and snapped the wire off.
Cheers
D
Post by: Robin on October 10, 2020, 02:00:22 PM
Cheers,
Robin.
Post by: Dentman on October 10, 2020, 02:03:05 PM
Post by: Sheppy on October 10, 2020, 02:47:11 PM
So not Sheppy proof! ;)No I’m afraid not :)
Thanks Robin, it was deffo a two pairs of glasses job tho!
Post by: Robin on October 10, 2020, 03:03:52 PM
No I’m afraid not :)
Thanks Robin, it was deffo a two pairs of glasses job tho!
I know - I had to make 65 sets up :agh
Post by: Sheppy on October 10, 2020, 04:42:54 PM
Post by: Alice B on October 11, 2020, 05:02:04 PM
Post by: Paul4978 on October 12, 2020, 12:31:17 PM
many thanks to all concerned
cheers
Paul
Post by: Rory on October 22, 2020, 09:12:56 AM
Post by: agg221 on October 22, 2020, 09:18:26 AM
Post by: Rory on October 22, 2020, 09:56:36 AM
Hi Rory, it's as per the relay arranged by email?
I think I'm missing a few emails as the last one i can recall seeing was about picking up from ether Bristol or Wedmore(?) but no timings of directions.
Ive probably cocked up somewhere but can you advise please?
Post by: JonA on October 22, 2020, 10:48:48 AM
i think from the last email i saw (16 oct) we are awaiting the pick up from the supplier for the batch coming our way.
I guess as soon as that is set up or done we'll be in position to sort out dates and directions.
cheers
Post by: Alan on October 22, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
My pair of screens 'should' be with you sometime and I have said in the emails that I will pick up from you when you have them.
Alan
Post by: Rory on October 22, 2020, 02:08:15 PM
Hi Rory,
My pair of screens 'should' be with you sometime and I have said in the emails that I will pick up from you when you have them.
Alan
This part I'm aware of, its the first part that i'm unsure of! lol
Post by: agg221 on October 22, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
Alec
Post by: Jesse411 on October 23, 2020, 05:31:42 PM
This part I'm aware of, its the first part that i'm unsure of! lolI am doing the first section of the run, collecting from Bromsgrove and delivery to Bristol. As Alec says, waiting for the payment to do sorted, then I'm on it......... :RHD
Cheers Hugh.
Post by: agg221 on October 23, 2020, 06:25:25 PM
The final payment has now been made. That means everyone should either have their screens or know how they are getting them.
If you are collecting from Bromsgrove, either for yourself or as part of a relay, please could you arrange collection asap. The way things are going, local lockdowns are becoming more frequent so it would be good to get the screens delivered before this becomes another barrier to contend with.
If you have already collected screens and think I may not be aware, please could you drop me a PM so I can cross you off the list.
Cheers
Alec
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on October 23, 2020, 07:16:13 PM
Hi All,
The final payment has now been made. That means everyone should either have their screens or know how they are getting them.
If you are collecting from Bromsgrove, either for yourself or as part of a relay, please could you arrange collection asap. The way things are going, local lockdowns are becoming more frequent so it would be good to get the screens delivered before this becomes another barrier to contend with.
If you have already collected screens and think I may not be aware, please could you drop me a PM so I can cross you off the list?
Cheers
Alec
I bet there is within your soul a feeling of relief and satisfaction that this Heated Screen thing is nearly over?
I am more than thankful to you for having taken on this task. I know first hand that it is not easy.
You'll be able to put the paracetamol away for a while now and let the brain relax.
Thanks again for sorting this.
Post by: MWAD7 on October 24, 2020, 07:11:16 PM
It has taken me almost exactly four hours to get from old-screen-on to new-screens-curing-on-the-kitchen-table.
I followed Witsend’s advice to lift the roof and get the screen down - bottle-Jack next to the transmission tunnel and a post balanced on it up to the roof.
I found it quite difficult to remove the screws from the retaining bars - the bottom two strips were basically immovable - but I was able to remove the screens with them still in place. I then used a blast of heat on each of the remaining screws and this helped free them. Maybe a dollop of copper grease on refitting....?
The foam padding squares are quite handy to cut down and use as spacers as Witsend suggested - up them in place once the sealant is in place, obvs.
The fly leads for the screens are in awkward positions - I’ve got the screen mounted wiper motors too, so I decided to make sure the fly leads exit the screen well clear of this area. I ended up cutting the bottom retaining strip between the second and third holes from each end - removing just enough for the width of the wire.
I have assumed (too late now to change) that the screens are oriented so that the safety markings are readable from the outside. The fly leads seem to terminate near the centre of the screens and I assume that there’s nothing special about either of the two faces of the screen.
Post by: Wittsend on October 24, 2020, 07:24:12 PM
You would normally fit so the glass markings are readable from the outside, but it doesn't really matter unless you are an obsessive perfectionist.
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/heated%20screen%20details.jpg)
:cool
Post by: MWAD7 on October 24, 2020, 07:36:00 PM
Forgot to add (at least two missing t’s from Wittsend references ;)) and that paint thinners cleaned up residual dumdum and other goo from the frame. A finger belt sander was prefect to flatten raised welds (and is quite a useful tool generally).
Post by: agg221 on October 24, 2020, 07:48:09 PM
Phew!
Forgot to add (at least two missing t’s from Wittsend references ;)) and that paint thinners cleaned up residual dumdum and other goo from the frame. A finger belt sander was prefect to flatten raised welds (and is quite a useful tool generally).
I hope you too wedged it in place with a few fifties. It won't work otherwise...
Alec
Post by: MWAD7 on October 24, 2020, 09:17:12 PM
Post by: PaulR on October 28, 2020, 10:43:54 AM
Heated screens reached Bristol yesterday evening - many thanks to Alec for all the organising and to Hugh for delivering to me.
I have several being collected this evening, but I haven't heard from most of the next stage in the relay.
If you are further downstream on the South West relay, please can you contact me so we can get the screens to you pronto.
Thanks
Paul
Post by: Tim_Moore on November 06, 2020, 07:26:26 AM
I'm super duper late to the party.
Are there any sets available for late purchase?
a set of these would be perfect in Norway!
Tim
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on November 06, 2020, 01:19:56 PM
Hello,
I'm super duper late to the party.
Are there any sets available for late purchase?
a set of these would be perfect in Norway!
Tim
I think you have dipped out?
However, Alec may just have something left?
He'll be along shortly to let you know.
Post by: Edlandy on November 07, 2020, 11:05:41 PM
So if theres any left I'd be interested too ( yorks based)
Post by: Robin on November 07, 2020, 11:33:57 PM
I think Alec was going to ask the suppliers if they still had stock of the screens ???
Post by: agg221 on November 08, 2020, 11:13:46 AM
I will be talking to the supplier this week to check where everything has got to (if you have picked up your screens but not let me know, please could you do so as then I can tick you off the list).
The only screens I know have not yet reached their destination are Glen Anderson's as they are in my shed and Lightweightles' as they are stuck in Yorkshire until I arrange to go to Middlesbrough on business, which has been delayed by lockdown.
Alec
Post by: Alan on November 08, 2020, 12:02:55 PM
FYI: Rory's and mine are currently in Bristol waiting for the lockdown to end.
Regards
Alan Berry
Post by: jrob on December 15, 2020, 05:45:58 AM
Thanks
Post by: Simonb on January 04, 2021, 10:42:26 PM
Regards
Simon.
Post by: Dentman on January 04, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Post by: agg221 on January 05, 2021, 12:43:58 AM
Alec
Post by: Dentman on January 05, 2021, 11:30:06 AM
Post by: fire3500 on January 13, 2021, 07:22:44 PM
There are no screens available at the moment but I have kept a note of requests, in a first come first served order.
I will be talking to the supplier this week to check where everything has got to (if you have picked up your screens but not let me know, please could you do so as then I can tick you off the list).
The only screens I know have not yet reached their destination are Glen Anderson's as they are in my shed and Lightweightles' as they are stuck in Yorkshire until I arrange to go to Middlesbrough on business, which has been delayed by lockdown.
Alec
And mine, but I emailed you about those. Can't wait for the end of lockdown! :)
Post by: Genem on February 09, 2021, 04:32:57 PM
Our use of the Forum like this, to act as a communication hub for members to organise group purchases was a new angle, not mentioned by other Clubs. The chances are that we will get a "side panel" on the subject. I mentioned 3 group purchases of heated screens, the night heaters -Robin - cork wiper motor gaskets.... what else should I tell them about. I forgot to mention mirror brackets ?
Also - do we have any pictures that would work - a pile of screens ? ....and a good picture of a vehicle sporting its new wiper motor/mirror bracket/window/....
Thanks !
Gene
Post by: martinrh on February 09, 2021, 04:54:22 PM
Post by: Ndrwdz on February 09, 2021, 05:24:05 PM
Andrew
Post by: Genem on February 09, 2021, 05:54:14 PM
Post by: Supercal2007 on February 09, 2021, 06:16:32 PM
Post by: Genem on February 09, 2021, 06:17:14 PM
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on February 09, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
Post by: Fluffle-Valve on February 09, 2021, 08:26:37 PM
Post by: Wittsend on February 09, 2021, 08:55:36 PM
:window
Post by: agg221 on February 09, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
We've been asked by "Practical Classics" to contribute to an article about Clubs sourcing parts... Having spoken to them they've had a big response from Clubs. Many do not get involved at all, some are into massive amounts of production, £500k a year spend...
Our use of the Forum like this, to act as a communication hub for members to organise group purchases was a new angle, not mentioned by other Clubs. The chances are that we will get a "side panel" on the subject. I mentioned 3 group purchases of heated screens, the night heaters -Robin - cork wiper motor gaskets.... what else should I tell them about. I forgot to mention mirror brackets ?
Also - do we have any pictures that would work - a pile of screens ? ....and a good picture of a vehicle sporting its new wiper motor/mirror bracket/window/....
Thanks !
Gene
I missed this post originally.
The screen supplier does the same for a number of automotive clubs, but not through their forums. They can get pretty much anything made and some of the 'specials' can be very expensive indeed. When the company owner dropped off my screens it was because he was literally passing the end of my road to deliver something personally. That was a single screen with a substantial 4 figure price tag!
On the point of other items being made available through the forum, worth mentioning Craggle's decals and, whilst not so active on this forum, Catmint's decent replica footwells which were available before anyone else was making them (and still are, along with his door stay brackets).
Alec
Post by: Supercal2007 on February 09, 2021, 10:08:03 PM
Post by: Genem on February 09, 2021, 11:09:18 PM
I'll pull a paragraph together and send it with some pictures...
:tiphat
Post by: Ndrwdz on February 10, 2021, 05:54:59 PM
Andrew
Post by: Paul4978 on February 10, 2021, 06:09:27 PM