Post by: Wittsend on May 01, 2020, 12:03:23 AM
Post by: Porkscratching on May 01, 2020, 10:41:30 AM
Ps that's a very shiny engine Mr W, tho you didn't paint the exhaust manifold.! :-X
Post by: martinthefirst on May 01, 2020, 11:54:29 AM
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 01, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
Post by: GRMac on May 01, 2020, 02:01:32 PM
Post by: Gres on May 01, 2020, 03:08:11 PM
Post by: Wittsend on May 01, 2020, 06:03:03 PM
Looks like it could do with one.
Post by: oddjob on May 01, 2020, 06:20:49 PM
sorry!
Post by: Peter Holden on May 01, 2020, 08:25:10 PM
Peter
Post by: andrewR on May 01, 2020, 09:29:16 PM
Dropped off the prop shaft and the drive flange and then got in a panic because I thought the pinion bearing had collapsed, as it was all wobbly.
Of course it is fine, it just goes loose when the drive flange comes off.. but I didn't think straight at the time.
So I dropped the diff out to try and see what was going on...
Then I worked out the bearing was fine of course.
Then I made a hash of putting the new seal in - and got confused about which way I was even trying to put it in.
And I don't have a new diff gasket handy to put the diff back in again when I get the seal in.. will have to wait for one to arrive in the post.
What an eejit!
On the plus side, having drained the diff of oil, it was fairly manky and I can give it a good clean out of sludge if there is any.
So it will get nice new oil as well as a seal, and the cogs still look AOK.
Post by: Gres on May 02, 2020, 02:13:05 PM
It'll smell of E-pea 90...
sorry!
Easy pea-sy, job successful and I didn't get caught :wooly-jumper
Under £11 for the sleeve from eBay was a bonus.
Post by: kempus on May 02, 2020, 07:37:27 PM
FYI - to replace floor, front reinforcing strip and rear panels needs around 200 counter sink rivets...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1ycDtQcE9-zpiZ7IWWW76qonxcPYvQQjfjCirLiPyUBvkg0cNsqifksnc-rCUjFmkaZ1jWn0gMn89fH2TnklLosrXQvfDb4xEIP4O8HdQ0lDUq_IvaWeiQX3gdw3Etlgd7JqA2fKI4s=w2400) (https://photos.app.goo.gl/mqri8rVErhsRZuSS7)
Post by: Alice B on May 02, 2020, 07:59:08 PM
Post by: gcc130 on May 02, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
Post by: Tom on May 02, 2020, 09:43:20 PM
As I am currently marooned at my girlfriend's house I discreetly hid this under the frozen peas in preparation for speedi sleeving tomorrow!Do you happen to have a link to the speedi sleeve you used Gres?
Post by: Rambler on May 03, 2020, 12:14:01 AM
Post by: Peter Holden on May 03, 2020, 06:33:51 AM
It is like new with almost no wear unlike the one that came off that was so worn that even the slide spring had worn a hole in the case.
Peter
Post by: martinrh on May 03, 2020, 08:48:55 AM
The lights were broken so I splashed out on some led ones (£6 delivered from eBay!) to reduce the additional load on the wiring.
After checking, modifying and fitting to the back of the trailer, I couldn’t get them to work.
A voltage check and it dawned on me, my Land Rover is positive earth :thud
They were sealed unit’s so it took a dremmel, unsoldering various led’s and diodes, turning them round, additional wires, and some hot glue.
It took far too much effort and I now have a trailer with lights that only work on positive earth cars, I should probably just tied my trailer board to the back!
Post by: Matt Reeves on May 03, 2020, 09:25:09 AM
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 03, 2020, 10:29:18 AM
If it’s not that pinion then ignore me :thud
Post by: Gres on May 03, 2020, 01:03:31 PM
auction: #301388131740CR99162 ....15/8 “ from dtsealsltd if it’s the output pinion like mine . Just done it. If you find the same picture on eBay as I did don’t be fooled by the long tube , it doesn’t come with that , just a metal tool a bit like a spray can top. It got it most of the way down but had to find a longer driver for the last bit. A used bearing off the intermediate shaft fits nicely.
If it’s not that pinion then ignore me :thud
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 03, 2020, 05:22:53 PM
Spent far to long on a ‘free’ small trailer I was given by a friend.
The lights were broken so I splashed out on some led ones (£6 delivered from eBay!) to reduce the additional load on the wiring.
After checking, modifying and fitting to the back of the trailer, I couldn’t get them to work.
A voltage check and it dawned on me, my Land Rover is positive earth :thud
They were sealed unit’s so it took a dremmel, unsoldering various led’s and diodes, turning them round, additional wires, and some hot glue.
It took far too much effort and I now have a trailer with lights that only work on positive earth cars, I should probably just tied my trailer board to the back!
Why not just reverse pos and neg in the coupling plug ?
Post by: martinrh on May 03, 2020, 06:28:09 PM
Why not just reverse pos and neg in the coupling plug ?Unfortunately that wouldn’t work. There is only one common on the plug, and negative was common on the light unit. you can only pass current one way through the leds, so it had to come apart.
It confused me for a while!
Post by: Genem on May 03, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
Post by: andrewR on May 03, 2020, 09:53:29 PM
Got the refurbished P25D distributor out of its box, having had it back from "the Doctor" in January. Took off the "all-in-one" "ETC5835EBLACK Distributor Electronic- Black Cap" and the spent some time refitting the reconditioned P25D and then re-installing the Lumenition opto-electronic parts into it. Not so straightforward. The reconfidioned P25D came with some repair to the collar (not sure what was wrong with the old collar) and a new cork gasket. The gasket was too big in O.D. and also thickness, so I spent a long time with vernier calipers and scalpels chopping it down to size to I could fit the P25D back on. Also wish I'd never taken out the metal vacuum pipe, as refitting that is taking a long time. Then I found I had to take a razor saw to the new P25 contact plate to cut the post down by 4mm so it wouldn't clash with the opto-electronic whizzy wheel thing. That explains partly why "the doctor" said my previous post needed replacing. Taking it very slow to avoid any major messups. Good news is that it fired up first time. Still need to connect up vacuum properly and set fine timing. I'd hoped to be able to keep the P25D so I could reinstall the mechanical points as a backup if the Lumenition developed a fault, but the cut-down post is now about 2mm short of what it would really need to be now. Would probably get me home, just, if I needed to. Probably I should now try and get a spare contactor plate with the long post as a spare.
Post by: oddjob on May 03, 2020, 10:19:30 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2B90j2y/E18-C1264-7-F0-D-49-B8-9-A32-9-DFEE8-A35-BD7.jpg)
Just hope I get to drive it in the dark sometime this year. :'(
Post by: Rambler on May 04, 2020, 03:14:51 AM
Post by: Old Hywel on May 04, 2020, 07:45:08 AM
Post by: Genem on May 04, 2020, 10:49:49 AM
It’s a sad day :'(. After nearly 5 years of ownership and when I’ve just finished my restoration of my Series 2, I have had to sell her for health reasons. At least it goes to a friend and new Series 2 club member - Russell here in Regina. He has a border collie and both will much enjoy the open top driving in Luna. I wish them all the best for the future :RHD
Very sorry to hear that, very sad for you. At least Luna has gone to a friend so you can retain some connection.
G.
Post by: Rambler on May 04, 2020, 02:40:22 PM
Yes, Russell has said I can have a drive or ride in this whenever I want too. It is kind of him and I know he will make good use of this, being his primary transportation. I hope to attend a few local classic car shows with him, to encourage more interest in our Land Rovers and the club, and to show off my hard work from the restoration, only made possible by the amazing people on this forum and within the S2 club from their advice in putting Luna back together again.
Best wishes and stay safe
Ian
Post by: scotty on May 04, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
I have today been down the paddock for some more wood from a large fallen tree all that I got today has now been ringed and split and stacked in my log store :cheers Paul
Post by: Wombat on May 04, 2020, 08:00:06 PM
Post by: Rambler on May 05, 2020, 05:47:46 AM
Post by: Wittsend on May 05, 2020, 06:05:18 PM
After a leisurely top end re-build the engine runs quite nicely, the chuffing has gone and a lot of the blue smoke.
It really needs a decent road run which will come later this week as I have to go shopping and visit the pharmacists.
I can now get to work on tidying up the electrics.
All ready for the Ripon Rally - fingers crossed....
Post by: andyjb on May 05, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
Post by: JJF234E on May 06, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
Post by: w3526602 on May 06, 2020, 05:30:14 PM
I started to prepare for the arrival of my next project ....
I need to cut a hole in my front hedge, and cobble up a gantry from which to hang my new block and tackle.
Wrong! I can't find my JACK saw. I wonder if my builder thought it was his, and took it home with him? But I can't complain ... what can you do with a builder who ignores demands for him to present his (five figure) account. ???
However, I did find my long handled lopping (sp?) shears, which will let me "crop" the hedge at ground level, so one out of two ....
Barbara ordered me a saw from Amazon.
NEXT, i need to know the distance from the crank handle hole in the front bumper, to the spigot on the front of the splined clutch shaft. I'll probably scale that off the "Coachbuilders" drawing.
If it's within anybody's "gift", (but I'll pay), I need a length of steel bar ... 80mm x 10mm x 125mm long. I can live with something a little bigger, on all fronts, but not smaller.This "lock-down" is making it difficult to buy stuff.
602
602
Post by: w3526602 on May 06, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
.... I'd have been quicker, but the lights were against me in Leeds ... :RHD
Front of front bumper to DATUM line = 24.968"
DATUM line to front of "Under flywheel" X-member = 24.625".
So, that means four 12" x 1/2" drive extension bars, plus a 6" extension bar, a 15/16"AF socket, and a ratchet bar. I don't know how many extension bars are in my tool boxes, or how much they cost. The alternative is to buy 1.5 metres of 12mm x 12mm square bar .... which I anticipate will cost more, and hope that one of my bi-hex sockets will fit on the naked end. But I'll still have the square bar.
Not urgent, as I have to strip the roof off, before moving it from it's delivery point, in order to get it into my garage ... I wonder if the "dinky" wheels will make that easier?
Hey! "DINKY". There's a meaningful name with a ring to it. I was trying to remember the names of the Seven Dwarfs. Hey again, ... "ring to it...". Has everybody heard the joke about how Quasimodo met his end?
602
Contrary to popular belief, Quasimodo did not pull a bell rope ... he used to jump up, and hit the bell with his head. But one day, he missed, and went flying through the belfry window.
The crowd gathered around his lifeless body, in the courtyard below.
The Coroner asked ..."Did anybody recognise him?"
"No! His face didn't ring a bell!"
Post by: Dormy on May 07, 2020, 04:06:00 AM
Hey! "DINKY". There's a meaningful name with a ring to it.
I can see a theme for a YouTube video series.
"Project Dinky" !
602; Can you work a video camera ?
;)
Post by: lurch032003 on May 07, 2020, 12:41:25 PM
;)
Post by: lurch032003 on May 07, 2020, 12:50:35 PM
It’s a sad day :'(. After nearly 5 years of ownership and when I’ve just finished my restoration of my Series 2, I have had to sell her for health reasons. At least it goes to a friend and new Series 2 club member - Russell here in Regina. He has a border collie and both will much enjoy the open top driving in Luna. I wish them all the best for the future :RHDSo sad to hear that you had too sell her due to health , but to a friend whom will take you out in her still, I hope that your health improves and your still able to enjoy getting trips out in her possibly drive sometimes on green road runs ??
Please stay safe and well.
John
Post by: RobS on May 07, 2020, 05:03:38 PM
The reason for the sneaky road trip was to visit my mother in-law at her care home, they were having a drive by day (no guns allowed :-X :-X :whistle) so I thought it would be good to take George, he behaved very well and was feeling pretty frisky, not sure if it's me not driving a lot but for sure the pony's were certainly not holding back.:cool :cool Any way did the drive by, it was good to she the old dear and George certainly brought a few smiles on the faces of the other residents - my good deed for the day. :tiphat :RHD :-*
RobS
Post by: rosinante on May 07, 2020, 06:13:26 PM
Chris
Post by: Dentman on May 07, 2020, 07:35:27 PM
Sprayed home made weed killer around spare parts and around landrover parking area plus around series one too nit sure if it will work as git recipe of gov.co.uk web site will try attach picSimple it is but from where do you get a 3/4 litre white vinegar? Waitrose ???
;)
Post by: Rambler on May 08, 2020, 01:31:18 AM
So sad to hear that you had too sell her due to health , but to a friend whom will take you out in her still, I hope that your health improves and your still able to enjoy getting trips out in her possibly drive sometimes on green road runs ??
Please stay safe and well.
John
Thank you John, I appreciate your supportive words. I hope I can do those too.
All the best and every good health to you and all of the forum members.
Ian
Post by: w3526602 on May 08, 2020, 05:43:12 AM
I just went into the road, and inspected the front hedge, in order to decide where surgery is needed to gain access.
I can't find my JACK saw (maybe my builder thought it was his), so Barbara ordered me a new one by mail order ... actually two, as they were on special offer. I've loved JACK saws ever since one cleanly removed the tip of my left index finger ... without drawing blood. Almost surgical precision. I still have to find a friendly timber merchant, this side of MK, to supply two 16ft (?) lengths of "50 x 150 sawn", so I can cobble up a gantry from which to swing my "block and tackle" (bought specially for the occasion)
Video camera? Video camera? I've just dug out my Fuji "clicky" camera ... and realise that I've forgotten how to download it. :stars. And no "slot" on my No.1 lap-top.Barbara takes moving pictures on her
Er, I get the feeling that what I download onto one of my lap-tops, also finds it's way onto the other lap-top, sitting only inches away. Can that be correct? Our daughter will be visiting on Saturday, I'll let her sort it out ... mere machines wouldn't dare resist her. Barbara says that daughter used to have a video camera, maybe still.
602
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 08, 2020, 09:04:41 AM
Happy to report no oil leaks from transfer box or output pinion , so far . Now need to stop brakes pulling to the left .
Post by: Wittsend on May 08, 2020, 05:26:36 PM
Ran OK up to temperature idling on the drive for 20 minutes the other day. It was running real nice and a lot of the blue smoke had gone.
Yesterday went for a "test" drive to the shops.
Got out on the open road and "bang" followed by a metallic sound and clouds of smoke :shakeinghead
Lost a lot of power...limped home for 2 miles at 20 mph with tail between my legs, smoking the village out :thud
I thought a hot spot had dropped out but it turns out #5 exhaust valve is stuck open.
Just lightly kissing the piston top, but not marked it.
The push rod was somewhat bent.
I thought I had all the valves nicely reamed and fitted to their new valve guides but clearly this one has sized up solid.
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/knackered_valve-1.jpg)
The valve on the right is jammed open :thud
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/knackered_valve-2.jpg)
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/knackered_valve-3.jpg)
Guess which cylinder/valve got stuck...
2 weeks work down the drain ... >:D
Plan is to finish the head refurb on my "spare" engine and pay more attention to getting it right.
I think I know where I went wrong.
Good job, there's no Land Rovering to go to.
Then to reburb this "busted" head at my leisure....
:RHD
Post by: Mowersman on May 08, 2020, 07:04:50 PM
But that was a lump I didn't much care about...
Andrew
Post by: martinrh on May 08, 2020, 08:34:58 PM
If it makes you feel any better I ended up replacing my engine oil three times today.
(Admittedly I did recycle most of the oil that didn’t get in my hair)
I was quite smug taking the oil filter off and thinking the oil everywhere was caused by the po not fitting a sealing rubber.
Turns out I just couldn’t see it and It leaks quite badly if you fit two seals.
Took me two goes to realise, and I nearly lost my sense of humour.
Still the sump seems to be leaking less after making it a little flatter with a sledge and lump hammer.
I can see the benefit of the spin on filter conversion!
Post by: TimV on May 08, 2020, 08:46:59 PM
Post by: kennyg on May 08, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
not for the purists on here but it works fine
ken
Post by: Wittsend on May 08, 2020, 09:27:18 PM
Wittsend, such a shame and so frustrating after all that work.
If it makes you feel any better I ended up replacing my engine oil three times today.
(Admittedly I did recycle most of the oil that didn’t get in my hair)
I was quite smug taking the oil filter off and thinking the oil everywhere was caused by the po not fitting a sealing rubber.
Turns out I just couldn’t see it and It leaks quite badly if you fit two seals.
Took me two goes to realise, and I nearly lost my sense of humour.
Still the sump seems to be leaking less after making it a little flatter with a sledge and lump hammer.
I can see the benefit of the spin on filter conversion!
... which is why I have my name down for a spin-on-filter :first
Post by: andrewR on May 08, 2020, 09:57:20 PM
Fitted up a mechanical points to my newly refurbished 25D distributor, adjusted points and fired it up to check it worked, then took off and put away in a plastic pot. So now I have the Lumenition system as #1 ignition system, and a mechanical set of points preset as a backup in the toolkit just in case ... Then things went downhill as I got hopelessly distracted trying to fit some recycled cheap LED spotlights to the top of my pillar drill so I could see what I was drilling. Cheap chinese rubbish, not surprised they were thrown out by mother-in-law. One of the LED drivers had gone, and the wiring/earthing was the worst I've ever seen on an appliance, especially as it had metal casings and no earth. I had to butcher the two sets to make !two working sets! (score, in the end, by using the constant-current driver from one lamp to drive both lamps.. and, technically, still within the driver ratings ....)
Back fiddling with the Landrover finally.
Is it possible to purchase aluminium penny washers in M5/M6 etc.? I found myself cutting up some old aluminium sheet to make some to prolong the life of my wings, used next to the old (slightly corroded) wing skin in place of large steel penny washers. But it takes a long time to make them. I looked a bit online, but never found any. Anywhere sell them?
Post by: Wittsend on May 08, 2020, 10:30:55 PM
A few possibilities there...
You could use nylon washers to insulate stainless or zinc plated steel or go for the more expensive anodised aluminium washers in a variety of colours - you could have green for starboard and red for port side ???
:RHD
Post by: Peter Holden on May 09, 2020, 07:27:49 AM
Strangely I had no problem with the wheels
The good bit about a land rover is that you can do it in stages as long as you dont wait too long in between
Peter
Post by: andrewR on May 09, 2020, 09:40:03 AM
Type "aluminium penny washers" into eBay ???Oh yeah... I never looked on ebay...
...anodised aluminium washers in a variety of colours - you could have green for starboard and red for port side ???
Didn't find green ones, but 30 red M6x25 should see me through, probably for ever.
Sawing up sheet, then drilling and filing it is fairly boring, so happy to spend a few pounds.
Post by: Old Bodger on May 09, 2020, 09:58:55 AM
Post by: Wittsend on May 09, 2020, 07:08:50 PM
Perhaps not too bad with a Payen gasket to fill the "gaps" ... but there's this pitting effect on no.4 cylinder and one or two other nicks on the head face. Will take it for a skim when we are out of lock-down.
Meanwhile, I shall re-do the head that failed.
New guides and valves ... I shall scrap the lot that were in the head when it failed.
Post by: andrewR on May 10, 2020, 08:27:41 PM
Interestingly I'd tweaked this hub 1/6th turn in October and done a half-hearted job of sticking grease in the outer bearings only. Six months later and ~500 miles, the same grease almost undisturbed when I removed the drive flange. Just shows, even with a bit of reasonably driving, it takes a while for the swivel oil to percolate through the hub and even think about getting to the inner bearing and seal.
Some tinkering with my non-original but period heater which sits in the passenger footwell roof. Managed (I think) to lubricate the motor bearings, and set up the shaft so the fan is fully free. Perhaps it will work without squealing and stalling next winter.
Had some amusement challenging my son to get an old 6.50x16 tyre off my spare rim - an S2 military split-rim that I have used as my spare for some time. After some attempts, discovered that breaking the bead and then planning to use tyre levers is futile as there is no "well" in the rim, so instead undid the bolts for the first time in many years and split the rim as it is intended. Another inner tube freed for use on summer holidays for beach fun - if we ever are allowed!
Post by: diffwhine on May 10, 2020, 10:17:50 PM
I thought we’d got past this problem years ago, but evidently the usual suppliers are still feeding us rubbish… :thud
Yrs frustrated from Haslemere...
Post by: Wittsend on May 10, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/steering_column_2A.jpg)
Getting the old bearing out is a right pain.
I find it best to remove the whole column from the box, remove the inner shaft and use a long bit of pipe to tap the bearing out.
Fitting is dead easy.
:RHD
Post by: diffwhine on May 10, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
Post by: Tim Chilcott on May 11, 2020, 08:36:51 PM
Crikey. How many bearings :agh
Just a little shrapnel found so far :shakeinghead
Post by: Old Hywel on May 11, 2020, 10:27:48 PM
Post by: Genem on May 11, 2020, 11:58:25 PM
:'( :'(
Post by: Bonnet-rouge on May 12, 2020, 07:04:12 PM
Post by: Dentman on May 12, 2020, 09:26:08 PM
Post by: Lord Unstone on May 13, 2020, 09:44:05 AM
Post by: Dentman on May 13, 2020, 10:03:32 AM
Good Morning my Lord, good to hear from you again! :RHD
Post by: Wittsend on May 14, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
Post by: andrewR on May 14, 2020, 09:27:44 PM
Opened stopper to steering box, and couldn't see an oil level but apart from that didn't look too bad. Might have been forgotten since ?1988? Topped it right up!
Pleased not to see it immediately pour out the bottom.
Realised I no longer have my handy pint-sized EP90 squeezy bottle with the tube.
Hunted around and requisitioned the gravy basting syringe from the kitchen drawer.
Its not the ideal tool, but I managed to top up both swivels and front diff with it.
Getting through this year's jobs list now. Hoping sometime to get out for a decent run with the camping stuff and bikes ...
Post by: w3526602 on May 15, 2020, 11:09:32 PM
Nothing technical, I just moved yesterday's front hedge clippings into the now empty green wheelie bin.
The bin men emptied it this morning. It was brimming with Leylandi cuttings. Heavy!
I will try to clear another three feet of hedge tomorrow, access by S2 for the use of.
I'm wary of provoking Lady Whinge down the road into complaining to Higher Authority. But my understanding is that they can do nothing until somebody actually sees me drive over the foot path, and even then, they can only tell me to STOP.
Once in the garden, I will never NEED to cross the footpath again, but it would be useful.
The LA's declared policy is that no more than ONE dropped kerb is allowed per house. Does anybody know if Planning Approval, probably needing to go to appeal, can over-ride a council directive. Councils don't like appeals, solicitors cost money. The Appellant can represent himself ... or even withdraw at the last moment.
602
PS Barbara's last boss (on a DPM Task Force) went on to be the Head of the Planning Inspectorate ... but he's probably retired by now.
Post by: Gibbo103 on May 16, 2020, 09:49:40 AM
Post by: Wittsend on May 16, 2020, 10:07:52 AM
What type of bird ???
Post by: Gibbo103 on May 16, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
Post by: andrewR on May 16, 2020, 05:02:46 PM
Thread at https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,467.0.html (https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,467.0.html) was very useful!
I was using my Grandfather's old stamp set, so no idea what vintage they are.
Clamping a bit of DIN rail for a straight edge was really helpful.
All went fine except a "2" looked a bit more like an 8, so I took a gamble and carefully aliigned the same stamp over the exact same spot and did another couple of whacks.
Post by: Peter Holden on May 16, 2020, 05:41:31 PM
Peter
Post by: oddjob on May 16, 2020, 06:27:13 PM
Hey ho, new kit on its way.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8T1F4yb/9F96171D-2D78-4C55-97C7-819711953462.jpg)
Post by: Supercal2007 on May 16, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
Post by: Daisythelandy on May 16, 2020, 10:37:34 PM
After repainting the drivers footwell due to the brake fluid leakage I finally started putting the peddle boxes back on, had to ask a friend to send me some closed foam gasket material as I can't go out to get my own stuff, he had plenty anyway.... So that's the new clutch master cylinder on and set up as per the manual, next the new brake master cylinder and new pipes.
Well at least it got me away from the musical madam was watching - 'South Pacific', pah..... And tonight it was 'virtual' Eurovision - double pah.... :thud
Dave.
Post by: Peter Holden on May 17, 2020, 06:53:05 AM
Peter
Post by: Gibbo103 on May 17, 2020, 09:12:27 AM
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 17, 2020, 10:03:02 AM
Soaked the spark plugs a bit more on my recently purchased, supposedly never ran, been sat in a shed for 40 years, NOS, 2.6 6 cylinder engine assembly. Good news is 4 of the plugs are starting to move, but 5 and 6 are absolutely solid. It will be interesting to have a look inside the bores with the endoscope. Took a picture inside the exhaust manifold as per below, certainly looks clean!
Very nice. I look forward to more pictures as you go , that must be the last one anywhere going on what I read on here.
I used to work in a quarry in the mid 70’s and had use of a 4 cyl and 6 cyl station wagons . They were both nearly new I think when I first met them and only used as ‘ crew buses ‘ to and from the local village so low mileage. When they bought new minibuses I tried to buy one of them , either one but was told they were not for sale....then they sold the 4 cyl to a fellow worker and kept the 6 cyl to use at the company offices. I was gutted.
Post by: Peter Holden on May 17, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Peter
Post by: diffwhine on May 17, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
Will be returning the 4 stock top bearings mentioned earlier to the various suppliers who palmed off this rubbish on me and will be making my opinion known.
Lesson learned though - the issue of steering column top bearings being too big to fit over the inner column is still an issue with all the big suppliers. This is one area where i would strongly advocate buying Genuine even if it hurts me to say it!
Post by: oddjob on May 17, 2020, 12:58:07 PM
Tried to fit a cheap wireless controller to my winch but it would only spool out, not in :thud
Hey ho, new kit on its way.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8T1F4yb/9F96171D-2D78-4C55-97C7-819711953462.jpg)
They didn’t want the old remote control back as only one output was working so I made a self contained remote control horn.
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The results were hilarious when it was hidden in the downstairs loo...
Post by: TimV on May 17, 2020, 03:03:35 PM
New floor, top hats, replace the cross pieces with galvanized ones. Some damage on the walls of the wheel arches, looks like an extensive shopping list with YRM.
Post by: diffwhine on May 17, 2020, 05:37:52 PM
Reminds me of when I got hold of a previous boss's Classic Range Rover. I wired the brake light circuit to the horn... He had just sent me to fix a Land Rover in Siberia so I had to find a way to get my own back.
One of my engineers took one of those musical birthday cards apart and put the electronics into the office printer copier. Nearly drove the office mad trying to work out where the sound was coming from. Those were the days...!
Post by: Daisythelandy on May 17, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
My car has had a steel tub floor over the original floor, so I've decided, as we are in extended lockdown, to investigate the horrors underneath but mainly deal with the leaks that were in the tub. Pulled the steel floor up. Extensive corrosion on the floor. But repairable!
New floor, top hats, replace the cross pieces with galvanized ones. Some damage on the walls of the wheel arches, looks like an extensive shopping list with YRM.
Hi Tim, you'll maybe get better mpg after taking that off.... :neener
Dave F.
Post by: TimV on May 17, 2020, 06:18:59 PM
Hi Tim, you'll maybe get better mpg after taking that off.... :neenerI wish! I did once work out if the floor was having an adverse effect on the weight - 4'x3'x2mm (sorry for the mix of measurements) gives the volume which isn't a lot.
Dave F.
Post by: oddjob on May 17, 2020, 06:25:23 PM
Oddjob - you win the prize for brightening up my day. I've got a couple of similar remotes, but I suspect I'd be murdered by my wife if I tried that. Tempting though...
She didn’t half scream!
:cheers
Post by: DLH on May 17, 2020, 07:34:05 PM
Post by: maindy on May 17, 2020, 09:19:47 PM
Had some rubber mats over so fitted in LR todayNow that looks a tidy job, where did the mats come from ?
Post by: Genem on May 17, 2020, 10:51:57 PM
….spent most of the aftyernoon printing 140 renewal letters and membership cards along with making up 26 new member packs, they'll be in the post tomorrow :-)
Membership at 2023 paid up members tonight. :cool
Post by: Dentman on May 17, 2020, 11:04:03 PM
Post by: DLH on May 18, 2020, 08:39:39 AM
Ordered some nuts and bolts, ready for re-installing the seatbox and floor.
….spent most of the aftyernoon printing 140 renewal letters and membership cards along with making up 26 new member packs, they'll be in the post tomorrow :-)
Membership at 2023 paid up members tonight. :cool
Post by: Bemm52 on May 18, 2020, 10:45:53 AM
Post by: martinrh on May 18, 2020, 01:32:39 PM
Disheartened by the increasing amount of oil pouring out from around the back of the engine and transmission.
I think the whole engine/gearbox may have to come out to fix it properly :-(
My main issue is I don't want the Landy off the road during the lovely weather we're having, and I suspect it will take me a while!
Post by: Ndrwdz on May 18, 2020, 01:45:27 PM
My main issue is I don't want the Landy off the road during the lovely weather we're having, and I suspect it will take me a while!
That's why we all need at least two Landys
Post by: martinrh on May 18, 2020, 01:47:20 PM
That's why we all need at least two Landys
I hadn't thought of that! excellent suggestion, I'm accumulating enough spares....
Post by: Herald1360 on May 18, 2020, 10:56:38 PM
An incidental finding was the equally devious route taken on the offside for the roofrack mounted spots and reversing light cable which emerges from the top right of the back panel before going all the way forwards again along the roof rack to the spots. There's still a few tape bombs on that line to be dealt with!
Post by: Daisythelandy on May 19, 2020, 01:08:22 PM
Just wondering.... :brakes
Post by: rosinante on May 20, 2020, 03:58:29 PM
Chris
Post by: diffwhine on May 20, 2020, 05:43:50 PM
And yes - I do know it's upside down...
Post by: Raybis on May 20, 2020, 07:24:57 PM
Post by: Gres on May 20, 2020, 07:50:39 PM
Post by: Wittsend on May 20, 2020, 08:35:23 PM
Post by: w3526602 on May 21, 2020, 09:04:41 AM
Yesterday, I enlarged the hole in my front hedge, a bit more (hands full of thorns). I'm guessing that another day should finish it ... trailer for the reversing into. I wouldn't have been surprised if the "Old Biddy" down the road had turned up to have a mutter at me. Remind me to take a photo of my alleged "jungle".
602
Post by: Mr Ed on May 23, 2020, 05:23:50 AM
Over the years I have acquired many spare parts and parts, now is the time to start assembling the puzzle, or Lego ..
We start with the easy part, take everything apart to clean the chassis and then paint it. Years ago I did change the rear section, and weld a couple of parts with some rust, but the general condition is very good.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11uPOiEZe-2R9zoMFin2udU9b8gbEGz-L
I only know when I start putting together. God only knows when I'll be done ... ???
I still haven't mastered the art of posting images ...:shakeinghead
Post by: Peter Holden on May 23, 2020, 07:04:57 AM
Painting today. Reassembly tomorrow hopefully.
Peter
Post by: Supercal2007 on May 23, 2020, 07:54:23 AM
Post by: Peter Holden on May 23, 2020, 08:07:47 AM
At some stage when I am feeling flush I will collect a full set of undamaged cappings and get them galvanised but in the meantime something had to be done to stop the rust streaks marking the panels. Some are ben and twisted, others have chunks out and i a lot of places the galv is worn through but it is a 58 with 650000 hard miles on its back and you should have seen it when it came to me.
I am saving my money because I want to go back to a 2L petrol, I have a S1 gearbox now but engines are ridiculous money even for a pile of scrap but one day!
Peter
Post by: scotty on May 23, 2020, 12:34:41 PM
Not sure if you’ve seen this but it might be of Interest
LAND ROVER SERIES 1 2 - 2 Litre Petrol NEW ORIGINAL CYLINDER HEAD NEW OLD STOCK PART NUMBER 233430
On Ebay Craddocks - £346 Delivered
eBay item number: 293319520351
No use to me as all my Land Rover as 2 Litre Diesel's but I am sharing as the 2 litre Petrol Heads NOS are rare and it may of interest
Peter
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Post by: Peter Holden on May 23, 2020, 12:47:49 PM
Peter
Post by: scotty on May 23, 2020, 01:30:23 PM
Post by: diffwhine on May 23, 2020, 08:24:18 PM
Removed all the corrosion from my Lightweight bulkhead. It is now significantly more lightweight, but at least I can now see how much metal filling required.
However - learned that it is inadvisable to do a COVID 19 test straight after spending all morning angle grinding... The throat swab was OK, but when I stuck the swab up my nose... And that's after using an FFP2 face mask... I pity the poor analyst who has to work with that sample. Thankfully I haven't got CV 19 - I'm part of a volunteer reporting group and was called in to do a test.
Spent today getting a 6 Pot 109 running after many years sitting laid up. Runs like a dream!
Post by: Genem on May 23, 2020, 10:01:05 PM
Tomorrow I'm going to take the opportunity of having the seatbox out to replace the rear output oil-seal as that's leaking, new handbrake shoes as part of the deal...
The pic shows the inside of the clutch release mechanism ….and the bolt that was floating about inside, having worked its way out of the end of the layshaft !
This lock-down thing is good, at least in the sense that I feel under absolutely no pressure to do the job quickly ?
Post by: Mr Ed on May 24, 2020, 02:47:21 AM
After 10 years of purchasing it, I was able to start restoring my 88 IIA 1966 Station Wagon.
Over the years I have acquired many spare parts and parts, now is the time to start assembling the puzzle, or Lego ..
We start with the easy part, take everything apart to clean the chassis and then paint it. Years ago I did change the rear section, and weld a couple of parts with some rust, but the general condition is very good.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11uPOiEZe-2R9zoMFin2udU9b8gbEGz-L
I only know when I start putting together. God only knows when I'll be done ... ???
I still haven't mastered the art of posting images ...:shakeinghead
Thanks Alan for publishing the Photo.
:tiphat
Post by: Peter Holden on May 24, 2020, 07:12:15 AM
I painted the inside of the tub to match ther rest of the land rover and made some threaded plates for refitting the chain mounts and the seatbelt mounts, much easier than trying to hold a spreader plate and nut underneath whilst you try to feed a bolt through from the top. Assembly day today.. Got to get it together today I am due to go and collect a S1 gearbox this week ready for when I find a spreadbore engine.
Peter
Post by: martinrh on May 24, 2020, 09:43:48 AM
The swivel seal was a pain, but vey satisfyingly had an excuse to use my grandfathers old dial gauge to set the end float on the rear hub. I’m not sure how critical it is but good to get it right, and nice to have an idea of what 5 thou float feels like in case I need to do it again.
Post by: andrewR on May 24, 2020, 09:46:30 AM
Fiitted 2 "Series 2 Club" stickers. One to windscreen, one to rear hardtop window.
Somehow I seemed to rejoin with a different membership # this year, so I got a 2nd welcome pack and a 2nd sticker.
So I had 2 stickers to put in!
Post by: Dentman on May 24, 2020, 11:05:40 AM
Post by: Genem on May 24, 2020, 01:07:41 PM
Well.. yesterday. Very rainy. Not much.
Fiitted 2 "Series 2 Club" stickers. One to windscreen, one to rear hardtop window.
Somehow I seemed to rejoin with a different membership # this year, so I got a 2nd welcome pack and a 2nd sticker.
So I had 2 stickers to put in!
Hi Andrew, I can explain ! When we were loading up the new membership system last August/September we had to make space for 25 Life and Complimentary memberships which were recorded separately in the old system. Rather than change all the numbers they were tagged on to the end of the list we were working with......but in the meanwhile a few were entered onto the old system and we ended up with some duplicates......so I had to do a bit of a manual "catchup" and those numbers "moved" 25 places....and I issued a new membership card & pack. So far you are the second person to notice !
For everyone else, Renewals will always stay with the same number but if you rejoin after a gap then yes, you will automatically be allocated a new membership number. There is a few months grace period between going overdue and the old record being "lapsed" when the record is still there and can be re-used but the new system ( its been running since last October) does not reuse old numbers once they are lapsed.
Another one people still ask about is the "J" in joint memberships, again this is no longer part of the system, both members have the same membership number. The new system means that if we ever wanted to check who is who - say at a contentious AGM vote or something, it would be the work of seconds to get into the membership system as its now online rather than sitting on a single elderly laptop. It was a major concern that our membership data was quite vulnerable, even with back-ups, running as it was on a single laptop using an obsolete version of Windows.
Anyone who wants to see the data we have on the system for you can easily check and amend your own info at: www.series2club.co.uk/public_pages/join.php
Cheers,
Gene,
Membership Secretary.
Post by: kempus on May 24, 2020, 04:22:17 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LHTYMompwXlhUuVqr4-v0yTgKQXfSCpCEIUYLH8rTKPBxgJA58WeHUliPtaaEHZeAtnSOsktaRhsam41DlHmQkKlHi0eGX763qTyHTMMPFvwV_li8V5xyDvUi8thPGs7Wn0oRq56EGE=w2400) (https://photos.app.goo.gl/XywuLXjM3x4GGfuaA)
Post by: Steifbear on May 24, 2020, 04:39:56 PM
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Post by: StooBee on May 24, 2020, 09:27:04 PM
Really great to see it taking the form of a Land Rover at last.
Post by: scotty on May 25, 2020, 07:05:07 AM
Post by: andrewR on May 25, 2020, 08:54:41 AM
"moved" 25 places....Aha! Yep I found my two membership cards last night. Right enough they are exactly 25 apart!
Post by: nathanglasgow on May 25, 2020, 11:55:02 AM
Hi StooBee :tiphat that is looking very nice, can I ask please what tyres are they :cheers PaulAvon Rangemaster according to the writing on the side wall :tiphat
Post by: Genem on May 25, 2020, 02:03:31 PM
It was suggested that I check carefully the running surface for the oil seal and sure enough on removal from the box there is a noticeable wear mark groove so a good chance the new oil seal won't.... Options include £134+ VAT for a new one or a speedi-sleeve perhaps, though I've never tried that.
….but, in "the heap" is a gearbox I took out in 1992 with a snapped shaft. 28 years later I've just removed the rear drive flange and yippee, its in far better nick. A bit of discolourisation but no noticeable wear. An hour with a wire brush and the captive bolts that will eventually hold the brake drum and rear prop are in good enough condition to take a nut run up and down the thread. Yes, I could replace them but they are held in place by a huge circlip and I don't have anything that will tackle that, so they will do....
Post by: Alice B on May 25, 2020, 02:07:18 PM
Post by: TimV on May 25, 2020, 02:20:34 PM
Post by: w3526602 on May 25, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
Today I have been pulling little thorns out of my hands ... my front hedge is an aggresive breed ... but the gap is now just about Series size. I think I'll give it another two feet (600mm), just to be on the safe side.
The bin-men have not yet complained about my green wheelie bin being "brimming" with green stuff ... three times. One more should do it.
602
Post by: KLR875 on May 25, 2020, 06:01:39 PM
Post by: edd on May 25, 2020, 10:21:19 PM
Also finished painting the pedal boxes. Give it a few days for the paint to harden and then time to reassemble with new shafts etc....
Ed
Post by: 34058 on May 26, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
David
Post by: nathanglasgow on May 26, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
Post by: scotty on May 27, 2020, 02:35:52 PM
Post by: Wittsend on May 27, 2020, 02:55:04 PM
The shaft seems new and no slop in the bushes - one of the spacers was out of place.
Post by: Sheppy on May 27, 2020, 03:00:01 PM
Post by: Peter Holden on May 27, 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Peter
Post by: Daisythelandy on May 27, 2020, 07:53:53 PM
Dynamo and brackets fitted, easier job with the grill panel off.
Hope the next time will be as productive. :-*
Post by: andrewR on May 28, 2020, 09:15:47 AM
Post by: George P on May 28, 2020, 11:18:17 AM
Post by: Genem on May 28, 2020, 12:06:15 PM
Post by: Peter Holden on May 28, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
Have you looked on teh gearbox for a number? The last of the 2As had an all synchro box but still using the S2 clutch operating system.
Peter
Post by: George P on May 28, 2020, 12:41:15 PM
^^^ As I understand it you have several options. A Series 3 box, complete, will fit but you also have to use the S3 clutch mechanism, slave cylinder etc. I only recently discovered that while mine has a S2A bellhousing & clutch the actual box is an S3 fully syncho one. I believe that earlier S3 gearboxes will fit onto the S2A bellhousing, later ones don't. An expert will know the "from serial number..." stuff :-X
Thanks, I've attached an image but I should probably start a thread on this in Workshop Wisdom nearer the time, I am guessing the answer may not be a simple yes or no! At the moment, all appears well and everything fits / works ok. I just need to understand if its possible to add a synchro to 1st and second to the main shaft. As yet, I don't have the knowledge to identify bellhousings etc
George
Post by: Mowersman on May 28, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Andrew
Post by: Wittsend on May 29, 2020, 10:32:16 AM
Please feel free to repost ... but this topic only has 2 days to run before we start again for June.
:RHD
Post by: g6anz on May 29, 2020, 12:14:39 PM
Post by: Genem on May 29, 2020, 12:42:42 PM
Gene, Tonka seems to be a really wierd one, a S3 lightweight with a S2 clutch operating system.
Have you looked on teh gearbox for a number? The last of the 2As had an all synchro box but still using the S2 clutch operating system.
Peter
Hi Peter, Tonka is a Series 2A, build date of Sept '71 from the heritage cert, chassis number 23900592B, gearbox number is 95131399C, which I was told, is an 80s vintage - I'd appreciate your views on that? The vehicle was bought from the MoD Auctions by Arrow Engineering and I suspect it was them who changed it to RHD. ( The MoD lightweight chassis having "ambidexterous" steering ability). Interestingly the box is the military type with the top-filler held by a spring clip etc. Cheers, G.
Post by: Peter Holden on May 29, 2020, 12:48:01 PM
A wheelbarrow is a good place to dismantle a gearbox, any escaping oil gets caught in it.
I now have an overdrive replacement kit that can travel arround in the land rover in case of emmergencies and I can make the tools for the castellated nuts.
Peter
Post by: Peter Holden on May 29, 2020, 02:44:46 PM
I am curious bcause Tonka seems to have headlights in the lighweight S3 place according to my book.
The land rover that I want you to inspect is a Jan 69 build Rover 1
The gearbox that I am stripping is from a Rover 1, possibly RAF as it is covered in RAF blue paint.
I think you might have a very rare end of line S2A all synchro box. having looked hard at the bellhousing as I have taken the gearbox apart, if yours is a S3 box then they would have had to swap the bellhousing, it would have been much easier, quicker and cheaper to use the S3 release mech.
We are short of geabox numbers and most S3s have the number on the transfer case instead of the gearbox. I dont have any S3 gearbox numbers unfortunately.
Being ex mil anything could have happened in service so you might be right saying it is a S3 box but why change the release mech?
Peter
Post by: Wittsend on May 29, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
All Series 2A LWTs have a 236***** chassis number (RHD)
Whereas Series 3 LWTs have 951***** (RHD)
A genuine 2A LWT has a 236***** number and these are quite rare.
The other thing that sometimes happened was that the Army mechanics would repair damaged vehicles with what they had to hand.
The Army would also switch out engines and gearboxes to later S3 units.
The Series 3 LWT bulkhead/controls are a little different. Perhaps the obvious change was the removal of the screen wash bottle and change to electric screen washers.
Post by: Genem on May 29, 2020, 05:11:06 PM
Gene
I am curious bcause Tonka seems to have headlights in the lighweight S3 place according to my book.
……
I think you might have a very rare end of line S2A all synchro box. having looked hard at the bellhousing as I have taken the gearbox apart, if yours is a S3 box then they would have had to swap the bellhousing, it would have been much easier, quicker and cheaper to use the S3 release mech.
We are short of geabox numbers and most S3s have the number on the transfer case instead of the gearbox. I dont have any S3 gearbox numbers unfortunately.
Being ex mil anything could have happened in service so you might be right saying it is a S3 box but why change the release mech?
Peter
Like the standard civvy models, the late lightweights have lights in the wings Peter..... internally its all S2A style, no plastic surround on the steering column, no brake servo, single-line brakes and so on...
Post by: Genem on May 29, 2020, 05:15:58 PM
LWT 2As and LWT S3s came out on a slightly different timeline to the civy models.
All Series 2A LWTs have a 236***** chassis number (RHD)
Whereas Series 3 LWTs have 951***** (RHD)
A genuine 2A LWT has a 236***** number and these are quite rare.
The other thing that sometimes happened was that the Army mechanics would repair damaged vehicles with what they had to hand.
The Army would also switch out engines and gearboxes to later S3 units.
The Series 3 LWT bulkhead/controls are a little different. Perhaps the obvious change was the removal of the screen wash bottle and change to electric screen washers.
Don't forget the LHD versions, with 239****chassis, which is how Tonka started life. The easiest single give-away for an S3 vs an S2a Lightweight is the plastic "binnacle" around the steering column, fuses underneath, S3 indicator switch etc. There were about 2500 S2A lightweights built, how many survived being ragged to bits as trials motors in the 80s/90s is anyone's guess :-(
Post by: Wittsend on May 29, 2020, 05:56:21 PM
:-\
A timely reminder to make a good note of which way all the parts go.
I did and still got it wrong :thud
My saving grace is I have a complete un-messed with shaft on the shelf to use for comparison.
Tomorrow (if it's not raining) will be torque down day :cheers
Post by: Peter Holden on May 29, 2020, 06:31:42 PM
Diffwhine, the case is ready for you whenever/however you decide to collect it. There is no oil inside but I dont intend cleaning it.
Peter
Post by: Snarleynarley on May 29, 2020, 07:55:18 PM
I remember reading ages ago about an individual having this very issue (I'll never do that I thought).
If I had brains I'd be dangerous. Although being dense does make me eligible for being president of a major world power!
Post by: Betsy1969 on May 29, 2020, 08:47:44 PM
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Post by: Piggle on May 29, 2020, 09:50:05 PM
Post by: Mandrake on May 30, 2020, 02:55:47 PM
EDIT:
Took the truck cab off, such nice weather right now. :D
Post by: Dentman on May 30, 2020, 09:46:51 PM
Post by: Wittsend on May 30, 2020, 10:26:16 PM
The Falcon 9 Rocket passes close over the Panda Camper :first
Post by: Herald1360 on May 31, 2020, 11:39:59 AM
Broke it :stars
Or at any rate the gearbox. Died going up the hill at SO401915 on the west side of the Long Mynd. Reversing back a couple of hundred yards to the previous passing place was no fun! Even with a servo, three sets of trailing shoes doesn't do a lot of stopping on a 20% slope. The handbrake held just fine but I didn't want to chance cooking it!
No 1st, 2nd or 3rd gears so I suspect something nasty involving the layshaft. Towed on up the hill, eventually, by my sister's partner's Disco (he got well lost trying to find me) where we turned the whole outfit round at the entrance to the Midland Gliding Club. Finally drove home in convoy with my choice of gears being 4th low, 4th low overdrive, 4th high (finally managed this change on the move- kerrrrunch!) and 4th high overdrive. Rather a large gap between "2nd" and "3rd"!
Some serious thinking to do now- do I chance just sticking a (possibly dodgy anyway) recon 2A box behind the 200Tdi, splash out on a five speed conversion and flog the old overdrive, go back to petrol (possibly a 2.5 on a 2A box). Not up to serious DiY these days so £££ whatever >:(
Post by: Dormy on May 31, 2020, 12:33:42 PM
Not up to serious DiY these days so £££ whatever(
Might (I say might) just be a collapsed front bearing on the lay-shaft. If you are prepared to swap gearboxes then fixing this is not hard or expensive. It only needs the bell-housing removed to replace the bearing and clean any broken bits out. Why not start a thread in 'Workshop Wisdom' before making decisions about the "Dodgy Rebuilt" gearbox etc.
HTH
Dormy
Post by: gromet on May 31, 2020, 02:28:46 PM
Post by: Mowersman on May 31, 2020, 04:38:27 PM
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I hope the pics come up...
Andrew
Post by: MikeT on May 31, 2020, 05:17:01 PM
Post by: Genem on May 31, 2020, 09:39:27 PM