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Title: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: Worf on June 22, 2021, 05:19:46 PM
I have obtained a NOS boot handle for a car I am restoring (similar to a catflap lock).
Unfortunately it came with no key. Usually the key number is stamped on the "keyface" of the lock, or on the square operating shaft, but not in this case >:D

To remove the lock part (which should be stamped) I first have to grind off the "peening" on the square shaft so I can get at a small pin that has to be removed. After all that I still may be unable to remove the barrel without a key in it! It is definitely an FP key.

Normally there as always at least one stall at an auto jumble with a full range of keys to try, but not with covid restrictions in Wales. Apparently they made FP626 to FP750  :thud

Any autojumblers out there with a full set of keys? I suppose I could just drill the barrel out, but it seems a shame.
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: oilstain on June 22, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
I have a FP715 which opens the rear door on my 86" SW, a "Rootes" key, it seems to open other locks as well :stars

I doubt these locks were high security :thud
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: Old Hywel on June 22, 2021, 06:17:02 PM
When I was in short trousers we had a Vauxhall Victor, key FP715. Years later a Series 2 arrived, same key.
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: O7BE16 on June 22, 2021, 06:17:28 PM
If you can get the barrel out it is quite easy to make a key if you get a blank from a hardware store. Just put the bank key in and measure the position of the 'tumblers?' sticking proud of the barrel. Taking each one in turn file down the key until the tumbler is flush. Repeat for each tumbler joining the different sections of the key profile with a slope.
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: Malcolm R on June 22, 2021, 06:24:26 PM
I managed to pick my catflap handle open with a screwdriver and some wire after a couple of attempts because it came with no key. This might be more difficult for you though as a NOS one won't be as worn
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: autorover1 on June 22, 2021, 06:30:56 PM
There is a chap who usually attends Mark Woodward's  Malvern Show who has virtually full sets of keys.  Found a key  from him to fit an early S2 Zeni door lock. That was an MRN series key.
 I used a firm  near London to make a key for my Rover P6 steering lock when I hadn't  a pattern . Cost was £ 36  inc VAT for two keys including return postage for the lock as well. A lot cheaper than a new steering lock.
May be worth asking how much to produce a couple if you send them the lock
Its Express Keys in Orpington 01689 850008
Title: Re: OT- Wilmott Breeden "FP" series keys.
Post by: Worf on June 22, 2021, 08:53:05 PM
Many thanks for the suggestions.
Think I will have a go at filing off the peening/swaging and getting the barrel out. I do have a spare barrel (with key!) so if I damage the barrel getting it out, it wont be the end of the world.

Just spotted these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234035190828?epid=0&hash=item367d959c2c:g:EIYAAOSwhClgtlgf wonder if he will let me borrow them  :-X