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Help identifying my 2A
« on: April 13, 2020, 01:40:39 PM »

Hi,

My Landy is believed to be a 1965 model ex military GS 1/4 ton Rover 8 (does GS mean it was not FFR?) according to the plate on the bulkhead and the chassis number begins 241 and ends 265, there is then a 'C' after that (suffix C?). I think it was originally positive earth and has been changed- the inspection lamp sockets gave that away! It has a military engine as it has the mount for the 24v alternator and other signs. 

Could anyone shed a bit more light on it than that, i.e why it is known as a Rover 8 not a series 2A? There are various military contract numbers on the service plate on the bulkhead but they do not seem to bring up much when i search on the internet.

Sorry if these are basic questions, despite the vehicle being in the family for the last 40 or so years, no one knows much about its history nor can they explain any details about it.

I have also written to the DVLA and sent them the V888 form as suggested by Wittsend in another thread but can't see that coming back any time soon with everything going on.

Although I know the vehicle mechanically inside out at this point, I don't feel I properly "know" the vehicle until I can uncover its reason for existence if that makes any sense!

Probably going mad.

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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 01:50:31 PM »

The 241 is the chassis prefix which decides engine type (petrol or diesel), wheelbase and usually body type (utility or station wagon). The rest of the number is the vehicle number of that type. So with landrovers you had several chassis number 1s for the various types. The C suffix relates to the build era. As the design underwent changes that might impact parts supply or servicing, the suffix letter changed. As we know the dates they changed it can help dating a vehicle.
Rover 8 is because the military used it's own naming system for vehicles. Basically 8 is the eighth version of land rover used by them since the initial order of series 1s.

As a military vehicle I believe it would have been negative earth from new, although concurrent civilian vehicles were positive earth at that time. 
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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 02:35:12 PM »

My Landy is believed to be a 1965 model ex military GS 1/4 ton Rover 8 (does GS mean it was not FFR?) according to the plate on the bulkhead ...
GS means General Service.
FFR means Fitted For Radio.
It will have been one or the other, never both, so the answer to the question 'does GS mean it was not FFR?' is Yes.

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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2020, 08:42:05 PM »

Pop over to www.emlra.org
Ask your question there as it is the military landrover forum.
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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2020, 01:32:00 PM »

i was just about to say https://www.emlra.org  lots of usefull info ,   
 i have quite a few photos or GS lanrovers as i have to reconetruct mine ground up , do you no your ERM , ie mine is 73 EK 82 , its a 1963 GS 88"

you can find a lot of info about yours doing by useing what do they no , freedome of infmation , but you will need you ERM , unfortnatly for me my recores are still classified  but you may have better luck
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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2020, 03:06:03 PM »

I recently got an ex MOD and managed to get the service history. On the bulkhead plate there should be the vehicle number. If you go over to the RLC Archive website you can order the 'Q' card, which gives its past units and locations. It's £35 but I needed it for build date evidence as well. Good Luck
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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2020, 06:42:49 PM »

Thanks for the great info, I do have the vehicle number (76 ER 37) and will order the Q card.

Looking forward to hopefully finding out more about its military past!  :cheers

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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2020, 07:09:27 PM »

Are you sure it is not the B card which charts the cars history.

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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 10:13:33 AM »

Yep, sorry. It is the B card. Not sure where I've got mixed up from :stars
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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2020, 02:14:17 PM »

Thanks for the great info, I do have the vehicle number (76 ER 37) and will order the Q card.

Looking forward to hopefully finding out more about its military past!  :cheers

FOT

I took the liberty of putting 76ER37 into the RLC archive search facility, it looks as if they do not have a B Card for that ERM. Might be worth double checking that the detail is right ?  You could also try a chassis number search ?

https://www.rlcarchive.org/VehicleSrch

Sorry if that is bad news.

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Re: Help identifying my 2A
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2020, 08:46:53 AM »

Hi Genem, I also tried the search and have now requested a chassis search although not holding out much hope. What a shame, it seems really difficult to find out anything about this particular vehicle! I have a couple more leads to follow up but it looks as though it will be a horse with no name for the foreseeable  :thud

I am sure the ERM is correct as it is quite clear on the plate. All the other numbers don't seem to bring up anything anywhere either..

Thanks for your help,

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