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582LTR

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Fitting a 19j
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:17:57 PM »

If I was to purchase a 19j in bits, is there a kit to buy to rebuild it - gaskets and rings etc. Also, to fit it into a petrol vehicle, what things would I need to change? Besides fuel :-)

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 07:51:37 PM »


You would need your head testing, as they are positively the worst engine Land Rover ever made!

(Having owned plenty in 110s many years ago - the 200tdi was a revelation!)
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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2021, 08:25:11 PM »

You don’t like them then :-) my hesitance for going for a 200 is their ability to chew drive train. Also I have the chance of a low mileage, very good condition engine.

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2021, 09:48:39 PM »

fitted  12j recently very nice engine with a reasonable improvement in peformance and slightly better economy 28 to 30 mpg
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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2021, 10:20:15 PM »

Martin, aside from the concerns about buying an engine in pieces, if it meets your needs at a price that you can afford then go for it.  No one else knows your circumstances or needs.

I want a S1 spread bore petrol to put back in my 58, at the moment finding one at a price that I can afford seems a bit of a pipe dream but you never know.

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2021, 10:35:11 PM »

Hopefully in my favour, the seller is a LR business who took the engine out to use, had it all aqua cleaned and then the customer changed their mind. The engine is in good condition and ready for rebuilding.

I just shudder at the price of early engines. What has happened. I hope you find one anyway.

Martin
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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2021, 10:48:37 PM »

You would need your head testing, as they are positively the worst engine Land Rover ever made!

(Having owned plenty in 110s many years ago - the 200tdi was a revelation!)
   ... If its to rebuild you will get your head tested anyway ... cheers Les  ..  :-X :-X
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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2021, 10:50:11 PM »

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2021, 10:45:13 AM »

Martin you'll need a set up to operate the heater plugs a lucas starter solenoid is good to use as a relay (they pull 60 amps plus) I ran a 12J in the Dormy for a while and modified the ignition so that turning the key to the left operated the heater plugs swing over to the right to start. Does the 19J use a pull stop or a solenoid to cut the fuel?

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2021, 12:14:47 PM »

In my old diesel I have two keys, one for power and one to heat (one way) and then start (the other) I could use a similar thing then. Thank you. I await an answer to your second question.

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2021, 12:20:10 PM »

.... or

I have an illuminated push button for the heater plugs, separate to the key starter/ignition switch.

20 or so seconds on the push button and then the starter. They are close together so could both be pressed together, no real need.
After the 1st cold start of the day the heater plugs are not needed again, there's enough residual heat in the engine to restart on the starter, even when left for a few hours.

Lots of ways of rigging up a way to power the heater plugs, but a petrol starter solenoid is a very easy, very cheap way to do it.


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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2021, 12:20:44 PM »

..., had it all aqua cleaned ...

Is 'aqua cleaned' a fancy way of saying 'washed' ? Or is there more to it?

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2021, 12:21:54 PM »

Of all the engine options out there to fit, a 19J would be my choice of last resort.

As for the practicalities:

You will need to relocate the driver’s side engine mount on the chassis.

You will need to use a clutch kit appropriate to your gearbox.

You will need a fuel return to the tank.

You will need an appropriate exhaust.

You will need a switched supply to the fuel solenoid on the injection pump, and you need to make sure it stays energised while cranking, because not all diesel switches do.

You need to incorporate heater plug wiring- there are several ways of doing this.

You need an oil cooler.
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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2021, 12:26:42 PM »

In my old diesel I have two keys, one for power and one to heat (one way) and then start (the other) I could use a similar thing then. Thank you. I await an answer to your second question.

Martin

Martin  I run mine through a"tractor" switch almost identical to the LR one, first click left puts the plugs on connected to a warning light but no timer, count to 20 and turn it the same way to the next click gives starter and plugs and I run my plugs through a 100amp relay.  It used to be a petrol and had bee converted to diesel very badly and so I rewired it.  I got the idea of the tractor switch from our genuine 59 diesel.

Good luck

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Re: Fitting a 19j
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2021, 12:28:47 PM »

Thank you for your help with all that will be needed. The cleaning is with high pressure and takes off any residue.

I have been warned that these engines are marmite. Part of my choice of this engine is its low mileage, the fact I know what I am buying and it is slightly more gentle on the running gear. I will not rag it but realise I also have to look after it. An inter cooler is on the shopping list.

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