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Title: Steering wheel
Post by: Henrik on May 25, 2022, 12:09:17 PM
Potentially looking to replace my steering wheel on my Series 2A, as the original(?) is in a very poor condition.
A banjo variant could naturally be nice but they seem extremely expensive.
Looked at some Exmoore options but they say "not suitable for Series Land Rovers", not exactly sure why.
Anybody have a nice alternative that you can share a photo or link of?

Have not checked (and naturally should) check the number of splines, but do anybody know?
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Wittsend on May 25, 2022, 12:23:31 PM
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The 1st question is:
What steering column do you have at the moment ?

Splines with a clamp bolt in the base of the steering wheel.

Or splines with a big nut (1" AF) securing the wheel to the column.

The 2 types of wheel are not interchangeable.

If you have the early wire-spoked wheel they can be refurbished at home or professionally.
As you have noted they cost a small fortune on eBay.

You with have to search round car from the period as plenty had wire spoked wheels, not of there same design though - these would fit.

Or if you have the later column with he big nut there are plenty of after-market wheels that will fit - from sports & rally car shops.
These almost certainly will be of a smaller diameter.
Too small a steering wheel will make the steering harder to turn, although giving more room for your belly!

 :RHD
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: GHOBHW on May 25, 2022, 12:27:40 PM
there is also the option of getting your original steering wheel remoulded

https://www.charlesworthmouldings.co.uk/index.php/classic-car/13-classic-land-rover-steering-wheel-restoration

Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Craig T on May 25, 2022, 12:30:20 PM
You can also get them refurbished. A good option if you have the later one piece fully moulded version.
https://www.steeringwheelrestoration.com/

Craig.
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Simon1959 on May 25, 2022, 12:37:40 PM
I refurbished my steering wheel. It is a wire spoke type and it had quite a lot of cracks. I used milliput as advised by the forum to fill the cracks and then repainted in satin black and I have to say, it was a very rewarding job and it looks like new. I used VHT crackle paint on the centre to finish it off.
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Henrik on May 25, 2022, 12:52:19 PM
@Wittsend - very good question will have to investigate, but I vaguely recall a clamp.......  :stars

Refurbishing an old version seems nice but then I first need to get my hands on a Banjo type wheel to refurbish......
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: 109+1 on May 25, 2022, 01:05:50 PM
I have 3-4 wire spoked ones give me a shout if interested.  :tiphat
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: kev on May 25, 2022, 02:17:41 PM
I read somewhere that the most dangerous part of a vehicle is the nut behind the steering wheel.🤔



So I took mine off, and promptly crashed into a tree…😂😂😂
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: w3526602 on May 25, 2022, 05:51:00 PM
The 1st question is:
What steering column do you have at the moment ?

Splines with a clamp bolt in the base of the steering wheel. Or splines with a big nut (1" AF) securing the wheel to the column.

The 2 types of wheel are not interchangeable.


Hi Alan,

I agree that the two types of wheel are not interchangeable.  But I believe  the S2 and S3 columns are interchangeable (and even the S1 and S£ are physicallyl interchangeable, but not in practice, as the S3 is too long to be comfortable ... unless you intend to move the seat back several inches,)

I believe that both Range Rover and MGB steering bosses will fit onto the S3 splines.  ???  If I'm correct, you should be able to buy after-market bosses for MGB, and then find a spoked wheel to fit, in te Compleat Automobilist catalogue (Does the Club have an accessible copy? If not every enthusiast should have his own copy. It is aimed at the "Classic" restorer, or special builder).

I'm happy to be corrected on any of my statements above.

602
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: MrTDiy on May 25, 2022, 06:19:41 PM
Another vote for milliput

My top coat was vulnerable to hand sanitizer and would pull off if I had any residue on my hands
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Wittsend on May 25, 2022, 06:30:46 PM
The longer you can leave the paint on the wheel to dry naturally the better.

After filling the cracks (Araldite works well too) I use an etch primer. Then an undercoat, then another undercoat - RED this time.
When the final top coat of black wears through you can easily spot it.

I use spray paints from rattle cans  :first

Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Peter Holden on May 26, 2022, 09:28:10 AM
When I did mine I used milliput and I painted it with plasticote.

To help preserve it and to thicken the wheel up a touch I have covered it with a leather steering wheel glove.

Peter
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: George P on May 26, 2022, 10:44:45 AM
When I did mine I used milliput and I painted it with plasticote.

To help preserve it and to thicken the wheel up a touch I have covered it with a leather steering wheel glove.

Peter

I'd also recommend the leather steering wheel cover, its pretty easy to fit, looks great and solves some of the issues around paint wear & tear.
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Wittsend on May 26, 2022, 11:50:53 AM
 :ditto

Easy to fit with the wheel off.
I was never much good with a needle & thread but mine turned out real good, if I say so myself.
I find the leather gives a much better "feel" than the plain plastic.

(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/panda_steering_wheel-2.jpg)


 :RHD
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: crumbly65 on May 26, 2022, 01:46:32 PM
:ditto
I find the leather gives a much better "feel" than the plain plastic.
:RHD

Any particular make of leather steering wheel cover recommended?   :coffee
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: George P on May 26, 2022, 01:54:09 PM
Any particular make of leather steering wheel cover recommended?   :coffee

I went with this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261751131889?hash=item3cf1954ef1:g:DFoAAMXQVERSv2cd&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8LB%2BwDxmzMgZcClNYPEUPFZKqyHzLEBja3VicxadGxdqTXOzkWXyiXkEw0pG90rkkojX6bvL8ZcRDcKAD2Lm4iYjGY8%2FYQD8nLUruWL6fzIX0YKJBrw0JZMR%2F%2BeBT8SmmRBXT99u2mX09lVE37z0xg6qm0Rci8CtF1pFH0KcU51FL1B5BziULzYYYtlmAtlDojGDiZyn0BBs9XKolZJrpqnYoX0jEts%2BbP9JUy61AavX%2FbvhLvErTuoncjgfeX5Q4wl0%2BUnPhyht0mBSh1oAMBHwh7CpeRvVmeLuX1O%2FiSedw%2B6qgPjVmte6mw05Yy00JQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBM8JzshqBg
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Wittsend on May 26, 2022, 02:27:56 PM
Now there's a question - it was a while back and I can't remember.

But I'm pretty sure it was off eBay and less than £30.

Quite a few people seem to do these now - they should know the size of a Land Rover steering wheel, but for the record it's 17" diameter.
My "kit" included plenty of stitching thread and 2 needles.
All the sticking holes were pre-formed and so (sic) it was plain tacking sailing.


 :RHD
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Sunny Jim on May 26, 2022, 09:58:00 PM
Steering wheel restorations turned round a wheel for me in less than two weeks from me sending it, to getting it back. The boss was in good condition, but it had two broken spokes at the boss end, which they repaired very nicely at no extra cost. The overall finish was excellent, and probably better than could be done at home. Whilst it is not cheap, about £350 including two way postage and VAT, you do have a wheel that will last for years.

I collected quite a few wire spoke wheels over the years looking for one to restore; the main problem is not that the coating wears off the rim, but that the rim becomes very thin. On one, the boss'd had 7 bells knocked out of it by a PO, presumably trying to remove it. I did a post a few months back showing how dents and gouges in the boss can be rectified, almost back to normal, with the minimum of filler.

I managed to get one of a batch of new ones discovered by Dunsfold (presumably in a job lot of crates that they bought) so ended up selling off all but one of my collection. I only had the broken one restored, as it was unsaleable, and unusable as it was. I will get my 'spare' done at some point. The last un-restored wheel I sold went for about £200 in typically cracked and worn condition, but perfectly restorable. I have seen some appalling ones, only fit for the skip at stupid prices.

I am sure there are other wheels that might fit, but try getting one in decent condition!

Sunny Jim

Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Alan Drover on May 26, 2022, 10:42:16 PM
Many years ago I bought a new steering wheel for my Series 3 from Dunsfold. It has a much thicker rim than the usual ones and after all this time the paint hasn't come off all over my hands. It seems to be a plastic material and it's much more comfortable than the standard one. Anyone come across anything like it?
Title: Re: Steering wheel
Post by: Sunny Jim on May 26, 2022, 10:50:19 PM
Back when I was a student in the early 80s I had to replace my steering column and got a second hand one of the later type. Later, I got a brand new steering wheel which lasted until I fitted a wire spoke one again in 2017 (with a column I made new from individual components) - that was over 30 years. It was a 'Series 3' type, which were a different plastic, and was in good enough condition to sell it on for more money than it cost originally! The later 2A wheels seem to be a similar material to the old spoked ones (ebonite I believe), with a painted finish whereas the later Series 3 ones seemed to be a solid, harder plastic.

Sunny Jim