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Title: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Ian F on September 26, 2022, 04:15:54 PM
I found this piece of a NAAFI saucer, broken, on the beach near Carlingnose Point on the Firth of Forth. The point was the location of  two 6 inch guns defending the Forth circa WW1.
No RAF in WW1 of course, but is there any way of dating this rare artifact🥱🥱?

Ian F
Title: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Genem on September 26, 2022, 06:19:32 PM
Wiki says NAAFI was not founded till 1920...
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Ian F on September 26, 2022, 06:32:09 PM
The only military connections with that area I have been able to find were all around WW1, but of course there could have been a presence in the area right through to post WW2, it's a fairly strategic position. 
Does anyone know if the NAAFI badge was always that colour and design (but I guess the design of the tea service sets was of minimal interest to service men on duty!).

Ian F
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Genem on September 26, 2022, 07:22:29 PM
Sorry, I can't help but NAAFI still exists so worth checking if they have an archive or what-have-you ?   I bet there is even a re-enactment group !

 :coffee
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: diffwhine on September 26, 2022, 08:01:23 PM
I googled NAAFI crockery and found this (and several others):
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/original-naafi-ww2-british-home-front-462941209 (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/original-naafi-ww2-british-home-front-462941209)

Looks like WW2 era
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Ian F on September 26, 2022, 08:16:34 PM
Many thanks for this, I should have thought of this myself......
So, agree it could be WW2, thank you. How it got into the sea, broken, will remain a mystery, but I suspect the sea bed in the inner Forth is littered with every kind of military detritus given its Naval history.
Ian F
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: w3526602 on September 27, 2022, 06:47:07 AM
Hi,

NAVY ARMY AIR FORCE INSTITUTE. (NAFFI)

But the Royal Air Force was not formed until April 1st, 1918. Prior to that, it was the Royal Flying Corps, and presumably belonged to the Army.

Only the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force belonged to the king. Armies were raised by the local nobility. Which doesn't "hang right" with RE. REME, and RFC, etc.

And then there is (was?) Queen Alexandra's Nursing Corps,  put there just to confuse me. "It's the exception that proves (tests) the rule!"

602

Hmmm! Royal Land Rover would have a certain ring to it ... perhaps with a crown above the Green Oval? Is our new King a Land Rover fan?

I assume everybody knows about the protest from Buck House, about a certain toy/model of a Liptons Tea van, bearing the royal crest? Yes, Her Majesty drank Liptons tea .... but she didn't play with toy cars. You coud't make it up.
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Domeheadrivet on September 27, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Following the theme of crockery with curios insignia, I was in a mountain hut in Switzerland a few years ago in winter. Quite remote, no warden, no electricity, no running water.  Fresh water was obtained by boiling up some snow on the wood fire.

Anyway, I was assigned crockery drying after dinner.

Early in life, my father had instilled in me the habit of looking at the bottom of cups and saucers in cafes to see where they were made... him having grown up in Worcestershire.

Image my surprise when I flipped the plate over I was drying to find nazi insignia... and the next plate and the next... looking in the cupboard, there was an entire 12 place dinner service of the stuff including fish platters and a huge soup tureen.
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: Genem on September 27, 2022, 02:23:45 PM
^^^^^ Indeed. On a trip to Poland in the late 80s, but before the wall fell, I was served dinner on "the sunday best" with silverware all of which had the crest of a Luftwaffe Sqn on it.... Obviously the Officers Mess wagon had been "Liberated" at some point ! 
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: strang on September 29, 2022, 06:22:31 PM
And then there is (was?) Queen Alexandra's Nursing Corps,  put there just to confuse me. "It's the exception that proves (tests) the rule!"

The Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps (QARANC) still exists
Title: Re: OT: Military, but not Land Rover......
Post by: w3526602 on September 29, 2022, 09:19:08 PM
Hi,

My mate in Swansea  (Ex Registrar General of Shipping) inherited a load of Royal Worcester cups and saucers, with each "pair" having a different pattern ... he had an example of all the available patterns.

They had been given to Queen Victoria, so that she could choose what pattern she wanted for the royal crockery. Her Majesty gave them to one of the kitchen staff, who later became my mate's grandmother.

602