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Title: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: 100+9 on January 27, 2020, 07:01:49 AM
Where will these finish? I say a conservative £1400+

auction: #274216541941

We'll know soon.


Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: RobS on January 27, 2020, 07:12:18 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: 100+9 on January 27, 2020, 07:21:11 AM
Those definitely won't sit at £800!
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: HolmeLandie on January 27, 2020, 07:27:55 AM
Currently £1070 with 10 hours left on the auction ...
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: rustylandrovers on January 27, 2020, 10:14:16 AM
I still don't understand why no one is making new replicas of these for a reasonable price. they'd make a killing.

In the meantime, I'll be keeping my wallet nailed firmly closed and rolling on my banded rims...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33864581358_27f32d72ab_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Matt Reeves on January 27, 2020, 10:18:27 AM
Why are these so sought after? ???
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oddjob on January 27, 2020, 10:37:08 AM
Because they are rare. Only fitted to a few Forward Controls and fire engines.

There’s a company in Germany making brand new ones but only in Carlos Fandango 8 inch width.
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: rustylandrovers on January 27, 2020, 11:07:26 AM
Because they are rare.

And because they look rad!
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oilstain on January 27, 2020, 11:46:39 AM
I just dont understand when strong Discovery 1 steel rims can be got at £5 each :thud

ok not the look but....
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: GRMac on January 27, 2020, 12:48:02 PM
Wow.

Give me 272309s any day.
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Tom on January 27, 2020, 06:23:23 PM
Finished at £2000  :stars :thud
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Supercal2007 on January 27, 2020, 06:39:33 PM
Wow. If you want the real deal get those wallets open. But keep your wits about you.
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oddjob on January 27, 2020, 07:35:13 PM
Makes these brand new, TUV approved, tubeless wheels look like a bargain at £138 each.

https://www.4x4overlander.com/product/anr-classic-8x16-steel-rim-zero-offset-et0/ (https://www.4x4overlander.com/product/anr-classic-8x16-steel-rim-zero-offset-et0/)

If only they did them in 6.5" width.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Smokey 11a on January 27, 2020, 08:18:48 PM
Could get a set Banded for that money and go on Holiday  :RHD :RHD
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oddjob on January 27, 2020, 09:03:03 PM
Barbados isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.  :neener
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: nathanglasgow on January 27, 2020, 10:32:52 PM
Odds are we will see them relisted. I doubt many of the higher bids are genuine.
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: OilyRover on January 28, 2020, 12:44:33 AM
Could get the Overlander wheels and have a wheel bander take an inch out and still save a bunch of money I guess. ???
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oilstain on January 28, 2020, 07:58:15 AM
Are these the wheels mentioned on another thread that when fitted as standard came with a steering damper due to the offset ???
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Peter Holden on January 28, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Hard work getting the rims in a suitcase and you would be over your baggage allowance.

Peter
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Old Hywel on January 28, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
Hard work getting the rims in a suitcase and you would be over your baggage allowance.

Peter
Get them narrowed first, they’ll take less room. :cool
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: gcc130 on January 28, 2020, 10:11:44 AM
Could get the Overlander wheels and have a wheel bander take an inch out and still save a bunch of money I guess. ???
It would be cheaper to get a set of LWB rims banded
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: rustylandrovers on January 28, 2020, 10:12:06 AM
I recently got a quote for a set of custom rims for my truck, those came in at ~£450 each.

If the same supplier could make rims like this, you could potentially get some brand spanking new ones for less than some scabby old ones.
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: rusty66 on January 28, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
And they could be run tubeless, I guess  :cool
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oilstain on January 28, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
I still wonder if Discovery 1 wheels could have the centres removed and seriers centrers fitted and thesefore you would have tubles 7" rims that look series with the offst of your choise

I have seen lwb rims have the centres removed and rewelded inwards to give a tighter turning circle due to a bigger offset, this makes me think the above could be done :coffee
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Moogling on January 28, 2020, 11:40:33 AM
Could get a set Banded for that money and go on Holiday  :RHD :RHD

Any chance you could link us to a place that would band steel wheels?

couple of years ago I sold a set of these attatched to a forward control for £6k...  does that mean the whole vehicle was worth just 4k?!
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Bradfordseries2 on January 28, 2020, 12:20:42 PM
I still wonder if Discovery 1 wheels could have the centres removed and seriers centrers fitted and thesefore you would have tubles 7" rims that look series with the offst of your choise

I have seen lwb rims have the centres removed and rewelded inwards to give a tighter turning circle due to a bigger offset, this makes me think the above could be done :coffee

I have considered this too. I keep forgetting to measure the 2 rim centres to see if they are the same though! It would be easy enough to strip a set of LWB riveted rims and get the centre out. The Disco rims would have to be done slightly more carefully, grinding the welds out. Would be interesting to see if it is possible. I have a spare set of LWB and D1 rims....  :coffee
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: oilstain on January 28, 2020, 12:35:21 PM
I have considered this too. I keep forgetting to measure the 2 rim centres to see if they are the same though! It would be easy enough to strip a set of LWB riveted rims and get the centre out. The Disco rims would have to be done slightly more carefully, grinding the welds out. Would be interesting to see if it is possible. I have a spare set of LWB and D1 rims....  :coffee
I also have the rims and was thinking about it, to get them true they need to be set up on a laythe pre welding and whilst I dont know could putting the Discovery rims on a laythe be a way to remove the centres cleanly ???

Heritage railways and quay workshops often have large laythes :bright-idea

Also are not SWB and LWB wheel centres the same but SWB wheels are cheaper ???
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: rustylandrovers on January 28, 2020, 01:13:08 PM
I wouldn't mind having a play around with the D1 outer/series nave plate idea. I've not got any D1 rims though, if someone fancies measuring the ID of the rim up I'd be interested to see what it is :)

I also have the rims and was thinking about it, to get them true they need to be set up on a laythe pre welding and whilst I dont know could putting the Discovery rims on a laythe be a way to remove the centres cleanly ???

Heritage railways and quay workshops often have large laythes :bright-idea

As the D1 centres would effectively be scrap, you could just plasma cut them off then buff down the welds on the rim.

Wouldn't necessarily need a lathe to weld them up either, I made a jig up out of an old stub axle. As long as you can rotate the wheel and get a dial gauge on the rim, you can true them up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7830/31610774737_d445282c38_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: Debsshaun on January 28, 2020, 04:32:16 PM
We had tubeless rims banded 1.5" and the centres moved back. For a picture its the grey vehicle at the top in the topic linked below


https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,1895.0.html
Title: Re: Uber rare: One for the 'More Money than Sense' fraternity
Post by: twomokes on January 28, 2020, 08:38:47 PM
I still wonder if Discovery 1 wheels could have the centres removed and seriers centrers fitted and thesefore you would have tubles 7" rims that look series with the offst of your choise

I have seen lwb rims have the centres removed and rewelded inwards to give a tighter turning circle due to a bigger offset, this makes me think the above could be done :coffee

I have a feeling the diameter of the D1 rims is greater than the series rims leaving a gap. I suspect this as the series is a J section whereas the D1 is a L section. L sections will fit over disc brake conversions such as the Zeus kit whereas the J section wheel will not.