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Ken

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Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« on: June 26, 2023, 11:41:49 AM »

A new problem to me though not to anyone with long term involvement with Land Rover. How to deal with galvanic corrosion.
Having removed what’s left of the steel I have aluminium with heavy white deposits of galvanic corrosion. The obvious next move is to clean it as much as possible and having wire brushed it most has come away. The surface is however pitted with white powder in the pitting. So what next ? Is that good enough, if painted over will that check it or is there something else that needs doing. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2023, 12:16:10 PM »

I faced this last week on the rear of my tub Ken. As you have, I wire brushed most of it away, added some sanding, then etch primed and top coated. It looks great, but I don't know whether I should have treated as well.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2023, 01:03:26 PM »

My turn to nit pick at pictures... James - isn't your antiluce upside down?
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2023, 01:17:27 PM »

Ha! Probably. I'm weeks away from finishing the tailgate, so just bunged them on. Will be right when I get there I promise...
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2023, 04:39:59 PM »

That's good - otherwise gravity would take over and your nicely rebuilt tailgate might make a bid for freedom!
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2023, 06:53:17 PM »

The late Ken Wheelright (Series One restorer supreme) told me that he used vinegar on his motors to treat the white corrosion.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2023, 07:03:17 PM »

If my memory serves me correctly there are 2 versions of that antiluce and reinforcing.

One like James's where the antiluce is separate and is bolted through the tub

Th other is like mine where the antiluce is welded to the reinforcing - mine cant be fitted upside down

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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2023, 10:55:31 PM »

I am quite fussy with white rust pitting in aluminium.

Having rotary wirebrushed the surface vigorously, there is still pitting and those pits are deeper than you think.

I sit with my Dremel and a pointed router bit, and dig them out. It takes ages but as I said, much more comes out than expected and sometimes the pit actually extends all the way through, but is hidden by paint.

When all the pits are shiny rather than dull, I then paint with phosphoric acid and leave to dry overnight. Any holes are filled with JB Weld and sanded.

Then I think about painting......
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2023, 11:24:44 AM »

A mild acid such a vinegar should get most of the white powdery deposits out of the corrosion. After that filler and paint I guess. On thicker more structural stuff you’d want to weld up the pitting but that’s easier said than done with land rover panels.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2023, 06:01:49 PM »

Thanks for the advice everyone, JB weld is on the way, I have some phosphoric acid so will use that.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2023, 05:43:22 AM »

Hi,

Dare I ask if this galvanic problem could have anything to do with POSITIVE EARTH?

Probably best if I don't ask, and just get my coat!

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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2023, 08:03:40 AM »

I think you're right about positive earth causing more corrosion. I seem to remember that early vehicles were negative earth then it was changed to positive then back to negative with the introduction of alternators although early alternators were positive earth, mainly on Hillman cars if I remember right,
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2023, 11:11:30 AM »


My negative earth later Land Rovers suffer from it badly.

My Series Ones, very little.

Albeit that it might have something to do with the type of bonding, and amount of paint (if any) between the metals.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2023, 11:15:42 AM »

I can remember the "fur" on the earth terminal of positive earth cars which prevented starting and as a "knowledgeable (?)" youngster I was often called to sort it out. I don't remember seeing such a build up on negative earth vehicles.
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Re: Dealing with corrosion in aluminium
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2023, 12:08:57 PM »

I can remember the "fur" on the earth terminal of positive earth cars which prevented starting and as a "knowledgeable (?)" youngster I was often called to sort it out. I don't remember seeing such a build up on negative earth vehicles.

Still get it, but limited to the battery connections, hot water wash usually gets rid of it followed by a good wash down.
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