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Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Grandadrob on June 09, 2022, 08:05:00 PM
What’s happened to the price of petrol. Diesel here today 185.8ppl.  BUT petrol is now 182.9ppl.
Last week they were well over 10p apart. Have I missed something.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Bradley66 on June 09, 2022, 08:07:03 PM
Very close in price around here as well .

I had to pay £2.01 per litre yesterday for petrol.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Wittsend on June 09, 2022, 08:14:54 PM
It's to do with air pressure and whether the tide is coming in or going out  :stars

Something needs to be done about the retailing profiteers.
They put up the price the microsecond Brent oil goes up and then take weeks to cut the price (we never saw the 5p drop in duty here) when the market price of oil goes down  :shakeinghead

Nothing we can do about it apart from moan  >:(
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 09, 2022, 08:46:29 PM
Very close in price around here as well .

I had to pay £2.01 per litre yesterday for petrol.
It's about £1.82 or so here the last time I looked and I'm not too far from the New Forest. It's simply ripoff Britain alive and well.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 09, 2022, 09:06:05 PM
Costco Southampton, E10 unleaded £1.669 per litre the latest. Southampton has much cheaper fuel.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: diffwhine on June 10, 2022, 07:19:21 AM
I drove down from Scotland yesterday and the variations in diesel prices were staggering. A Tesco near the border was selling diesel at £1.79, then just down the road, another station selling at £2.04. The same seemed to be happening all the way down. Even motorway services don't appear to be such a comparative rip off at the moment. That's really scary. Who reckons they will ever come down again to a realistic price... Not me I'm afraid...
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Bradley66 on June 10, 2022, 12:14:46 PM
Petrol will be £2.50 per litre by the end of the summer. £2.00 per litre  is roughly the point I had in mind that would trigger my change from petrol to Electric when I replace my daily drive.

Its a slippery slope , the price isn't so much of a threat to older cars , the more people who make the swap to EV the less fuel gets used , the less of a profit is made and so on.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Rog-from-Bix on June 10, 2022, 01:21:01 PM
regatta garage in Henley on Thames unleaded 194 odd  diesel 192 odd. Not much competition locally.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Simon K. on June 10, 2022, 01:33:02 PM
Still a 13p difference here, Petrol 179.9 Diesel 192.9
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 10, 2022, 03:23:29 PM
I walked to the pub past the Shell station, £1.839 for unleaded£1.899 diesel. Walked back a couple of hours later, petrol£1.859. diesel £1.919. I dread to think what E5 is.
Ripoff Britain is really thriving, it's nothing to do with Ukraine or anything else, it's racketeering.!
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Smokey 11a on June 10, 2022, 04:50:41 PM
If you watch Nigel Farage on GB news this is his bug bear.  The result of his investigations had been the run down of refining in the UK to meet the Green agenda, as we all know this just moves the pollution elsewhere, in this case Russia. So if you want to get to grips with the current situation, write to your MP about the Green levy and get it removed/reduced asap.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: TimV on June 10, 2022, 04:52:15 PM
I swore I'd give up driving when petrol was going over £1 a gallon - I had said the same when petrol went over 50p a gallon - guess I didn't stick to that ...
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: island dormy on June 10, 2022, 06:39:31 PM
 Hi Guys

  We are up to $2.36  (Canadian) per litre for regular.
 My 69 Dormobile restoration with the 2.6L 6 cylinder with the Weslake head calls for Premium petrol $2.55 per litre  :'(

  Think I'm going to go out to the garage later today and dust off the old Shwin.

  Victor
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Genem on June 11, 2022, 11:34:33 AM
If you watch Nigel Farage on GB news this is his bug bear.  The result of his investigations had been the run down of refining in the UK to meet the Green agenda, as we all know this just moves the pollution elsewhere, in this case Russia. So if you want to get to grips with the current situation, write to your MP about the Green levy and get it removed/reduced asap.

One minor flaw in Mr Farage's story is that the UK is not short of refined petrol. The UK is actually exporting 3 million litres a month to the USA at the moment, more goes elsewhere. In 2020 for example we exported 24m Tonnes of petroleum products to Holland. Another slight flaw in his tale is that UK refining capacity has been static since 2015, actually increased slightly in 2020.

A point to remember is that oil products are traded in US $.  Related to Mr Farage, an event happened in Jun 2016 that saw the GB £ drop from around £1 = $1.45 to $1.33. It has never reached $1.45 since. Today its at $1.25.  A barrel of Brent Crude today is at $1.22 so roughly £100. Were the GB £ still at its 2016 value that oil would be only £84. Perhaps ask Mr Farage what happened on 23rd Jun 2016 to so depress the value of our currency ?

Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: rustynuts on June 11, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
^^ A good politician never lets the facts get in the way of his argument.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: crumbly65 on June 11, 2022, 04:23:21 PM
^^ A good politician never lets the facts get in the way of his argument.

^^^ And neither does a bad one.........
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Smokey 11a on June 11, 2022, 04:31:39 PM
One minor flaw in Mr Farage's story is that the UK is not short of refined petrol. The UK is actually exporting 3 million litres a month to the USA at the moment, more goes elsewhere. In 2020 for example we exported 24m Tonnes of petroleum products to Holland. Another slight flaw in his tale is that UK refining capacity has been static since 2015, actually increased slightly in 2020.

A point to remember is that oil products are traded in US $.  Related to Mr Farage, an event happened in Jun 2016 that saw the GB £ drop from around £1 = $1.45 to $1.33. It has never reached $1.45 since. Today its at $1.25.  A barrel of Brent Crude today is at $1.22 so roughly £100. Were the GB £ still at its 2016 value that oil would be only £84. Perhaps ask Mr Farage what happened on 23rd Jun 2016 to so depress the value of our currency ?

The cost of diesel (Not petrol) is cheaper retail than the cost of petrol so why is it a lot more for a litre of diesel at the pump? Been out of the fuel supply game for quite a while now
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Smokey 11a on June 11, 2022, 04:31:46 PM
One minor flaw in Mr Farage's story is that the UK is not short of refined petrol. The UK is actually exporting 3 million litres a month to the USA at the moment, more goes elsewhere. In 2020 for example we exported 24m Tonnes of petroleum products to Holland. Another slight flaw in his tale is that UK refining capacity has been static since 2015, actually increased slightly in 2020.

A point to remember is that oil products are traded in US $.  Related to Mr Farage, an event happened in Jun 2016 that saw the GB £ drop from around £1 = $1.45 to $1.33. It has never reached $1.45 since. Today its at $1.25.  A barrel of Brent Crude today is at $1.22 so roughly £100. Were the GB £ still at its 2016 value that oil would be only £84. Perhaps ask Mr Farage what happened on 23rd Jun 2016 to so depress the value of our currency ?

The cost of diesel (Not petrol) is cheaper retail than the cost of petrol so why is it a lot more for a litre of diesel at the pump? Been out of the fuel supply game for quite a while now
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Genem on June 11, 2022, 05:40:59 PM
Noted that Diesel was actually cheaper than Petrol at Tesco's pumps in Stirling today, highly unusual. I'm told were were importing cheap diesel from Russia until the recent unpleasantness. Also noticed that Sainsburys prices were fully 18p a litre cheaper than the "Independent" garage at Doune (Notoriously always expensive.) Both will be supplying fuel from Grangemouth I suppose ? 
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: LN11AAB498A on June 11, 2022, 10:23:10 PM
Yesterday at the Moto Services Wetherby, I bought diesel at £2.04.9 per litre.

Ah, those halcyon days when petrol was 30p a gallon.  And I bet we were complaining about that to
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Larry S. on June 12, 2022, 12:07:51 AM
One minor flaw in Mr Farage's story is that the UK is not short of refined petrol. The UK is actually exporting 3 million litres a month to the USA at the moment, more goes elsewhere. In 2020 for example we exported 24m Tonnes of petroleum products to Holland. Another slight flaw in his tale is that UK refining capacity has been static since 2015, actually increased slightly in 2020.

A point to remember is that oil products are traded in US $.  Related to Mr Farage, an event happened in Jun 2016 that saw the GB £ drop from around £1 = $1.45 to $1.33. It has never reached $1.45 since. Today its at $1.25.  A barrel of Brent Crude today is at $1.22 so roughly £100. Were the GB £ still at its 2016 value that oil would be only £84. Perhaps ask Mr Farage what happened on 23rd Jun 2016 to so depress the value of our currency ?

This is a rather touchy subject here in the States, especially when one considers that the current regime is releasing 180 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve AND shipping it to Europe.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Larry S. on June 12, 2022, 12:10:13 AM
There was a news story today, here in Kansas,that it is costing, on average $123/£100 to fill the average tank in the UK.  IIRC the said 14 gallons was tge average.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Bradley66 on June 12, 2022, 06:54:16 AM
There was a news story today, here in Kansas,that it is costing, on average $123/£100 to fill the average tank in the UK.  IIRC the said 14 gallons was tge average.

I have 65 litre tank in my daily car , that`s a bit over 14 gallons . I topped it up yesterday from 1/2 a tank to full and it cost me £68.
I have stopped looking at the price now because I need it for work. No petrol = no work = no money.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 12, 2022, 07:11:41 AM
I can remember when putting in £10 worth of petrol used to go a long way.
That's the right attitude Bradley66. Just fill-up and grin and bear it. There are more important things to worry about.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Genem on June 12, 2022, 10:38:50 AM
There was a news story today, here in Kansas,that it is costing, on average $123/£100 to fill the average tank in the UK.  IIRC the said 14 gallons was tge average.

Yep, we filled my wife's VW Passat yesterday with the cheapest supermarket diesel we could see. Final bill was £122 or US $155.   
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: diffwhine on June 12, 2022, 10:45:45 AM
Must confess to having stopped "filling up" now. With a Discovery 3, I start to get palpitations when I get near £90 and that's only about  half full...

Anybody want a Discovery 3 because it, along with hundreds (if not thousands) of other similar vehicles, are probably coming on the market very soon and very cheap!

If this is a deliberate effort to force people out of big vehicles, it seems like a very convoluted method, but seems to be working.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Larry S. on June 12, 2022, 02:17:16 PM
Must confess to having stopped "filling up" now. With a Discovery 3, I start to get palpitations when I get near £90 and that's only about  half full...

Anybody want a Discovery 3 because it, along with hundreds (if not thousands) of other similar vehicles, are probably coming on the market very soon and very cheap!

If this is a deliberate effort to force people out of big vehicles, it seems like a very convoluted method, but seems to be working.

You'd get a premium price for your vehicles here in the States probably.  Used vehicles are getting just as much, if not more (in some cases), than new vehicles here.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Grandadrob on June 12, 2022, 05:04:09 PM
I’ve waited 73 years to get a RR SDV8, going to enjoy it whatever, one kidney is enough anyway  :stars
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: rustynuts on June 12, 2022, 06:58:22 PM
I read that webuyanycar.com has recently had a record number of enquiries from people wanting to get rid of SUVs and large engine vehicles. Perhaps a good time to pick up a bargain if you only do a few miles.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Grandadrob on June 12, 2022, 07:04:13 PM
My 4.4 does more mpg than my last two cars. 3.0 straight six petrol Volvo 965 estate, 25 mpg.
Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 diesel 28 mpg. The RR SDV8 diesel does 30 mpg. All measured in similar scenarios.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Univetsal on June 12, 2022, 07:34:13 PM
Before long folk will be using "silent 6th" on a regular basis, only when off-road of course...😁
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on June 13, 2022, 05:50:37 AM
Ah, those halcyon days when petrol was 30p a gallon.  And I bet we were complaining about that to

Hi,

In my "halycion" (sp? )daze, I could buy JET (then a brand name) petrol for four shillings (£0.20) per gallon. I still bought it by the half gallon.

JET petrol was reputed to have a greater lead content than the posher brands, which resulted in the inside of the exhaust tail pipe turning white. You don't see that nowadays.

602

Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on June 13, 2022, 05:57:47 AM
PS,were

I can remember something call POOL petrol. I assume petrol was nationalised following the end of WW2, so the garage tanks  were "mix and matched".

Anybody?

602
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: diffwhine on June 13, 2022, 07:45:10 AM
JET is still a reputable brand name. We have one here in Godalming. Best value fuel in the area usually.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Smokey 11a on June 13, 2022, 05:14:09 PM
There was a news story today, here in Kansas,that it is costing, on average $123/£100 to fill the average tank in the UK.  IIRC the said 14 gallons was tge average.

I wish, £99 was all I was allowed at the pump (Card only self serve) declined my using it again so I had to resort to my other card and put another £20 worth in.That was at 185.9 a litre.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Smokey 11a on June 13, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
There was a news story today, here in Kansas,that it is costing, on average $123/£100 to fill the average tank in the UK.  IIRC the said 14 gallons was tge average.

I wish, £99 was all I was allowed at the pump (Card only self serve) declined my using it again so I had to resort to my other card and put another £20 worth in.That was at 185.9 a litre.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Eve on June 13, 2022, 05:38:46 PM
Today I put some Esso Supreme unleaded 99 RON (100% petrol, 0% ethanol) in my 'other' car which prefers 97 RON, according to the owner's manual.
At £2.06 per litre it cost me £80 for just over half a tank.
I think from now on the car will have to make do with E10 until prices come down a bit!
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on June 13, 2022, 11:05:37 PM
Used vehicles are getting just as much, if not more (in some cases), than new vehicles here.

Hi,

My understanding of the logic, is that new cars are cheaper because there are none available.

Hmmm! Barbara's Hyundai is over three years old, with stiill under 10,000 miles on the clock. She has surrendered her licence, as she cannot foresee ever driving again.

602
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on June 14, 2022, 05:11:44 AM
Hi,

OT ... maybe.

What I want is a pocket calculator thingy, into which I can key both my mileage and quantiy of fuel added, to give me a long term indication of my fuel consumption.

Even better if the said device can "talk" to both my odometer and the pump in the service station.  Or perhaps the pump could issue a credit card thingy with the details of the transaction, that I can poke into a slot on my dashboard ... let the car do the calculations.

Me? I'd need a big buzzer to remind me.

602
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on June 14, 2022, 05:20:56 AM
PS,

The above idea might be viable on a battery powered car. How else would you keep a tally of your power consumption? KiloWatt weeks?

Maybe its already an option?

602

Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 14, 2022, 04:52:02 PM
It's gone up another 3p per litre since Sunday.RIPOFF!!!
It's 6p a litre cheaper in Salisbury than here but it's not worth a 36 mile round trip to benefit from it unless I was going that way.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Wittsend on June 14, 2022, 06:13:56 PM
Hi,

OT ... maybe.

What I want is a pocket calculator thingy, into which I can key both my mileage and quantiy of fuel added, to give me a long term indication of my fuel consumption.

Even better if the said device can "talk" to both my odometer and the pump in the service station.  Or perhaps the pump could issue a credit card thingy with the details of the transaction, that I can poke into a slot on my dashboard ... let the car do the calculations.

Me? I'd need a big buzzer to remind me.

602

Your car already has these functions - have a look in the driver's handbook.

Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Big-chris on June 15, 2022, 01:01:00 AM
Was out the other day popped to the farm shop and pork pie shop just to get away from the computer screens for half hour (work from home) took whats becoming the spare car for a run as is not moved for a couple of weeks Mercedes GL450cdi 4L V8 twin turbo diesel powered wagon, called in a Shell garage to put £50 in as the fuel needle was just above a quarter, because it’s not used much as with all our cars these days I tend to use Shell V Power Petrol/diesel I find it keeps a bit fresher for longer and keeps things nice and clean.. put £50 in got just over 22L of fuel  :thud the fuel gauge didn’t even get to half £2.25ish a litre didn’t even think to look at the pump until I was approaching £50, did just under 20 miles round trip so it cost me a tenner to fetch mi Pork pies  :shakeinghead
Don’t know how people are coping with their daily commute these days  ??? 2017-2018 my weekly commute to the office averaged 945 miles did that for a solid year, what would that cost these days!! Surely something has got to give soon, the world has gone mad   :stars


Mmm  :pie
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Larry S. on June 15, 2022, 01:04:58 AM
Was out the other day popped to the farm shop and pork pie shop just to get away from the computer screens for half hour (work from home) took whats becoming the spare car for a run as is not moved for a couple of weeks Mercedes GL450cdi 4L V8 twin turbo diesel powered wagon, called in a Shell garage to put £50 in as the fuel needle was just above a quarter, because it’s not used much as with all our cars these days I tend to use Shell V Power Petrol/diesel I find it keeps a bit fresher for longer and keeps things nice and clean.. put £50 in got just over 22L of fuel  :thud the fuel gauge didn’t even get to half £2.25ish a litre didn’t even think to look at the pump until I was approaching £50, did just under 20 miles round trip so it cost me a tenner to fetch mi Pork pies  :shakeinghead
Don’t know how people are coping with their daily commute these days  ??? 2017-2018 my weekly commute to the office averaged 945 miles did that for a solid year, what would that cost these days!! Surely something has got to give soon, the world has gone mad   :stars


Mmm  :pie

I'm looking at the possibility of a 45 minute commute one way.   :thud
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: RobS on June 15, 2022, 06:58:09 AM
Was out the other day popped to the farm shop and pork pie shop just to get away from the computer screens for half hour (work from home) took whats becoming the spare car for a run as is not moved for a couple of weeks Mercedes GL450cdi 4L V8 twin turbo diesel powered wagon, called in a Shell garage to put £50 in as the fuel needle was just above a quarter, because it’s not used much as with all our cars these days I tend to use Shell V Power Petrol/diesel I find it keeps a bit fresher for longer and keeps things nice and clean.. put £50 in got just over 22L of fuel  :thud the fuel gauge didn’t even get to half £2.25ish a litre didn’t even think to look at the pump until I was approaching £50, did just under 20 miles round trip so it cost me a tenner to fetch mi Pork pies  :shakeinghead
Don’t know how people are coping with their daily commute these days  ??? 2017-2018 my weekly commute to the office averaged 945 miles did that for a solid year, what would that cost these days!! Surely something has got to give soon, the world has gone mad   :stars


Mmm  :pie

Hi Chris

I've recently gone over to V-power in George as I did leave some E10 in from last year and had great problems to get him running again, all's good now plus an added bonus of a Shell station recently opening up the road from me - but as you said it's not cheap.

For daily driving I fill my car up about every 2 months (mainly to use the fuel up before it goes off, I could leave it longer) but the actual costs are around £18 per month for the energy used locally - this is the joys of a plug in hybrid which equals about +250 mpg. I was lucky to change when I did plus it's still a Land Rover.

Rob   
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: crumbly65 on June 15, 2022, 10:20:10 AM

Don’t know how people are coping with their daily commute these days  ??? 2017-2018 my weekly commute to the office averaged 945 miles did that for a solid year, what would that cost these days!! Surely something has got to give soon, the world has gone mad   :stars


Mmm  :pie

Quite Chris!!  What's starting to give, is that more and more people are now working from home.  SWMBO's annual commuter ticket was £4000 - and that's out of her pay AFTER tax.... :shakeinghead

She now works from home as much as possible, (despite Rees-Mogg carrying out the Daily Mail's vitriolic attack on the Civil Service), even though working from home (WFH) is far from ideal.

What has transpired, is her workplace has now intruded into our home, which means I have to be quiet, invisible and deaf when she's on Zoom video calls etc, and of course, we are now paying extra heating and energy costs.  However, the financial saving makes it worth the aggro - just.

We're now firmly out of the Industrial Revolution age, and at the start of the Technological Age.  We need to be aware that prior to the Industrial Revolution, the default position for nearly all workers, was working from where they lived, either at home or within walking distance of their home.

These are interesting and disturbing times.......
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: George1990 on June 15, 2022, 10:45:07 AM
I've never had a car (not land rover) that does more than 23mpg, but I've never spent a lot on them. Paid £750 for my current merc so am not bothered about the fuel cost. If it did 40mpg I would save about £600 a year. Not worth buying a modern car for that.

 I also usually sell them for more than I paid for them a few years down the line once I've ragged them to bits and the rot sets in. Lost money on the last one but not a lot over about 4 years.

An electric cars cost £100s a month to buy, and then cost a fortune when it goes wrong. Old mercs don't really go wrong and waft you along
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Big-chris on June 15, 2022, 12:16:01 PM
I've never had a car (not land rover) that does more than 23mpg, but I've never spent a lot on them. Paid £750 for my current merc so am not bothered about the fuel cost. If it did 40mpg I would save about £600 a year. Not worth buying a modern car for that.

 I also usually sell them for more than I paid for them a few years down the line once I've ragged them to bits and the rot sets in. Lost money on the last one but not a lot over about 4 years.

An electric cars cost £100s a month to buy, and then cost a fortune when it goes wrong. Old mercs don't really go wrong and waft you along

I completely agree with you, all my modern cars are older models the GL is the youngest being 2011 last year of the diesel V8’s, the ML is 2008, and the Jag S-Type is 2003, for me all still very modern cars, but to some, usually younger people they are classed as old cars??

The cost of changing them to more modern heavily dependent on electronic wizardry cars or space ship technology electric cars would be tens of thousands, buys you a lot of fuel and tax does that…….

I can appreciate people like to have the peace of mind a new car brings, with a manufacturer warranty and dealership support and if you are at the financial level of being able to buy new or nearly new then good for them I say… my brother has a new high end car every two years, but he admires and spends more time talking about my old Land Rovers n cars than he does his when I ask him how his car is running!! Doing 58mpg and it’s cheap tax!!

The big con with fuel is the duty but the even greater con is the VAT on top! Fuel price effect’s everything we buy, I can see it hitting £2.50 litre before long, the government is making billions out of us in one of the quickest forms of tax collection, amazing coincidence after they have just shelled out so called billions for the pandemic!

It’s not just here though mother-in-law lives in Belgium, she paid €2.31 per litre the other day for E10 Petrol!

It’s all about getting some coffers back in the volt asap  ??? soon be Christmas  :stars
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Big-chris on June 15, 2022, 12:22:56 PM
Hi Chris

I've recently gone over to V-power in George as I did leave some E10 in from last year and had great problems to get him running again, all's good now plus an added bonus of a Shell station recently opening up the road from me - but as you said it's not cheap.

For daily driving I fill my car up about every 2 months (mainly to use the fuel up before it goes off, I could leave it longer) but the actual costs are around £18 per month for the energy used locally - this is the joys of a plug in hybrid which equals about +250 mpg. I was lucky to change when I did plus it's still a Land Rover.

Rob

It does work better Rob, and if you are not doing the regular miles the extra it costs pays for itself in the clean running and performance, yep your wagon will always be a Land Rover mate and a very nice set of wheels it is too  :o your timing fell just perfect before the madness began….. wonder if in the future we will remember this time as when it all started to go wrong and the demise of cars as we knew it? Bit like the comment above a bit of a reverse industrial revolution but with more focus on transportation… hope you are well mate  :tiphat
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: RobS on June 15, 2022, 12:41:22 PM
It does work better Rob, and if you are not doing the regular miles the extra it costs pays for itself in the clean running and performance, yep your wagon will always be a Land Rover mate and a very nice set of wheels it is too  :o your timing fell just perfect before the madness began….. wonder if in the future we will remember this time as when it all started to go wrong and the demise of cars as we knew it? Bit like the comment above a bit of a reverse industrial revolution but with more focus on transportation… hope you are well mate  :tiphat
I'm still pinning my hopes on what JCB are doing and hopefully it will taken on board by the car industry, I got a feeling the EV side is going to be another diesel gate - but time will tell.

Interesting reading from JCB - https://www.jcb.com/en-gb/campaigns/hydrogen

Rob.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Rog-from-Bix on June 15, 2022, 12:52:51 PM
I'm still pinning my hopes on what JCB are doing and hopefully it will taken on board by the car industry, I got a feeling the EV side is going to be another diesel gate - but time will tell.

Interesting reading from JCB - https://www.jcb.com/en-gb/campaigns/hydrogen

Rob.

I see bp just bought 40% of an Australian hydrogen and renewables operation.
https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/news-and-insights/press-releases/bp-to-lead-and-operate-one-of-the-worlds-largest-renewables-and-green-hydrogen-energy-hubs-based-in-western-australia.html (https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/news-and-insights/press-releases/bp-to-lead-and-operate-one-of-the-worlds-largest-renewables-and-green-hydrogen-energy-hubs-based-in-western-australia.html)
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: diffwhine on June 15, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
I'm still pinning my hopes on what JCB are doing and hopefully it will taken on board by the car industry, I got a feeling the EV side is going to be another diesel gate - but time will tell.

Interesting reading from JCB - https://www.jcb.com/en-gb/campaigns/hydrogen

Rob.

Absolutely agree. I work for a certain car and chemical company which I won't name on here, but suffice to say that when the hydrogen solution is finally worked out, it seems far more sensible. Just got to get the initial process of getting it greener. At the moment, its not a particularly green solution. That's is being dealt with, so I look forward to my next new purchase being H powered... Slightly lacking in infrastructure at the moment, but it will happen.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 23, 2022, 10:34:40 PM
Petrol price in Venezuela, £0.018 per litre. A long way to go say save money though.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: DogDave on June 25, 2022, 08:39:42 AM
Interesting article on bbc today - there is a solution
(Kind of - doesn’t save you from the wholesale costs or the half of price that’s pretty much tax)

Community owned petrol stations - plenty of examples of it working for pubs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-61798791

Anyone nearby that’s used it and can comment?
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Clifford Pope on June 25, 2022, 09:55:46 AM

 I also usually sell them for more than I paid for them a few years down the line once I've ragged them to bits and the rot sets in. Lost money on the last one but not a lot over about 4 years.


My stile of motoring absolutely, in fact over the whole 56 years I've been driving.
In the early years I bought category 3 cars, now category 2+, but the principle still applies.
All my cars have been on the lower end of the depreciation curve, bought just at the point when they were about to start edging up in value again. Some would be worth a lot more now if I'd kept them - in fact on checking many of them do still exist.

I can't see that method ever working with electric cars, a) because the batteries will represent an increasingly large part of the value of the car as it ages (and no one is ever going to collect classic batteries ! ), and b) because the cars themselves, like all modern cars, are so ugly.
I only buy cars (including Land Rovers) I love.
Title: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: island dormy on June 25, 2022, 06:26:18 PM
  Hi guys

  Petrol prices over here on the wet coast of Canada have gone down a bit this week, all the way down to $2.09 (regular grade)per litre.
 However next weekend is officially Canada Day (and its a long weekend) so prices will be back up in time for that.

 Even with petrol prices on the way down I have decided to add some extra security.

  Victor

 
Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Exile on June 26, 2022, 05:36:41 PM
My newest car is this old bus.
Bought off a local gamekeeper for £500.

It either doesn't use much diesel or the fuel gauge is broken!



Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: Alan Drover on June 28, 2022, 10:18:16 PM
Tesco in Ely, Cambs, are selling petrol at £1.689 per litre and diesel at £1.999. It just goes to show how we are being ripped off and nothing is being done about it.
Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: crumbly65 on June 30, 2022, 12:04:15 PM
Over in France on holiday at the moment. Here in the Dordogne, Supermarket price for E5 is £8.19 per gallon….😱
Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on July 01, 2022, 07:45:07 AM
Hi,

Yesterday, I poured the best part of £100 into Barbara's iX20. I must try discipling myself not to enjoy the acceleration. Perhaps more sensibly, I should research the financial benefits (VED and insurance, and main dealer servicing) of something more mundane.

602
Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: w3526602 on July 03, 2022, 06:03:01 AM
What has transpired, is her workplace has now intruded into our home, which means I have to be quiet, invisible and deaf when she's on Zoom video calls etc, and of course, we are now paying extra heating and energy costs. 

Hi,

I assume everybody knows that the Tax Man will look favourably on claims for the use of your home as an office. Does anybody have any details about "How much is acceptable"?

Exile ... I envy you. I'm currently in a state of "Marital Discord", about which car is to be "culled" ... my Freelander, or Barbara's Hyundai. Maybe I should remind her that it was her SAAB (running amok) that wrote of my beautiful Disco ... for which I received £650 from her insurers. (The assessors stopped detailing the cost of repairing the SAAB, when the "body part" count hit £7,000. I think the only visible panel that wasn't buckled was the passenger door. Damage to the driver's side was transmitted across the car.)

602
Title: Re: Petrol prices ... yes petrol
Post by: DogDave on July 03, 2022, 07:42:16 AM
It’s something like the tax relief on £6 a week, you don’t need any receipts or anything but it’s only payable if you have to work from home, not if you chose. It (unusually for that mob) became simpler process as a result of everyone working from home.

If that’s you then easiest way to do is on your online tax account through the government gateway system and they just add the 6 x 52 to your tax code. How much that is worth depends on the rate you are paying but any reduction in tax is to be cherished these days.

Hopefully goes without saying but anyone offering to do this for you on a Google search or whatever is almost certainly a scam artist and must be avoided at all costs- only put details into actual government websites and double check it’s actually a .gov website as tax returns are one of the growing areas for scammers.