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[George1990]

I'd do it on the starter motor. In sections if cranking for ages. Maybe use a battery you're not too worried about. Or just let him drag it

[island dormy]

  The starter motor thats a good idea, I remember driving my TR-6 200+ miles  with no clutch (fluid leaked out)and if I had to stop at a light and shut the engine off, using the starter motor got it going again in second gear then it was back to shifting with no clutch. The starter motor might just do it in low range no problem. Its freshly rebuilt so might be a good test for it.

But I think I'm still going to try the hand crank thing. Maybe even video it.

  Victor

[Exile]

   Also how many people can say they have hand cranked a 2 ton vehicle of any kind up a hill. Backwards to boot. Not many I would bet...........well  actually maybe none.

                                                                                                                    I suspect there may be a good reason for this ^.

[A-Ro]

It must be impossible with the spark plugs in, it’s hard enough trying to start it.

[island dormy]

  I definitely will have to pull the plugs this is the high performance Nada engine with the Weslake head 8.8:1 compression ratio and the head got skimmed when I rebuilt it so its likely more in the range of 9:1.
 I can barely turn it over with the plugs in.

  Hi Exile  You may be right.

  Have a Merry Christmas everyone Ill post the results when available probably in a weeks time.

  Victor

[Old Hywel]

A video of your efforts? Yes please!

Regarding a brake-man (highly recommended) he’d just as well sit comfortably in the driver’s seat, the extra weight won’t be noticeable.

[g6anz]

602 this is what you're after I think  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aStGnWN-i9o

[island dormy]

  Hi Old Hywel

   My brake mans going to have to walk beside the rover, the seat box is also at the painters.
 That might be safer anyway if things go bad they would not have to waste time jumping from the rover.

  This is how the rover is right now. (Minus the front doors).

  Victor

[biloxi]

Twice I had a L/R end up in a dam in  similar situations because I thought I'd be quick enough when things went  wrong. The second time it clipped a tree first
 and did some damage. Both times I was working on my own. Things can get out of hand very fast.
.W.

[w3526602]

602 this is what you're after I think 

Hi,

I think you are right. It's not quite what I remember, but close enough to put what I do remember into doubt.

Can anyone comment on which is best gearing for hand-cranking up hill ... first gear or reverse (assuming you have a choice).

Slightly ON TOPIC, I have vague memories of a film, set in Africa, involving a gate, on a hill, and a Series One with no hand brake ... and presumably an engine that could not be restarted if switched off. The challenge was to get out of the Landy, open the gate, and back into the Landy before it had rolled too far back down the hill.

It might have been interesting to experiment, see how slowly a driverless Landy can trickle along, at tick-over, in 1st gear LO, while the driver is employed elsewhere.  I have a vague memory of a film, where the hero came across somebody walking across the desert.

"Where's you car?"

"Several miles in front of us!"

"What do you mean?"

"The engine would not go faster than a tick-over ... so to relieve the boredom, I got out and jogged alongside ... and tripped. The car got away from me".

602

[g6anz]

That’s from “The Gods Must be Crazy “

[oilstain]

That’s from “The Gods Must be Crazy “

great film, I have the Land Rover clips on my phone

[Uffddd]

That’s from “The Gods Must be Crazy “

I seem to remember that Land Rover ending up a tree at one point in that film as well.

[w3526602]

The starter motor might just do it in low range no problem.

Hi,

I'm tempted to agree with that ... subject to the spark plugs being on the bench ... and you being able to apply the brakes.

Me? I'd give it 30 seconds on the starter motor, followed by a 60 second rest, but those figures are plucked out of thin air.

Hand cranking will test fitness, as your torso bobs up and down.

Make sure that you have some sort of "fail safe" (wife on the footbrake ... the extra weight will be negligible) Decide before you start what will be the ultimate move ... she bales out ... or yanks steering to full lock, then jumps.

I used to use a boat winch hung from the gantry, to pull my various Landies up the 1:8 drive ... lots of steel cable. Fairly effortless, apart from my upper body having to pump up and down.

It's a good idea to decide what CAN go wrong, and plan, before you start pulling.

602

602

[Nanuq]

This is a perfect application for a length of rope and a few pulley blocks.  Heck, you could probably pull it up the slope with two men on the ends, no need for vehicles to pull it up.  That's not much of a slope, what would it take to push it?  200-300 lbs force?  Divide that by 6 with the pulleys and each man would be pulling maybe 50 lbs effort.