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[oddjob]

I've had a worrying thought. The private number plate on my old Series 2 is worth more than the car. It's been in the family for 3 generations and I'd be in deep family trouble if I lost it.
The DVLA says....

You can only get your private registration number back if:

    you told the police about the theft
    the vehicle had a valid MOT certificate when it was stolen
    the vehicle had up-to-date vehicle tax when it was stolen


Which is worrying as I don't take my tax exempt Series 2 for mot's 

Doesn't seem very fair that I need to mot the old thing just in case it gets nicked.

Can anyone conform if it applies to historic vehicles?

 

[diffwhine]

At a guess, I'd say you have nothing to worry about. That rule is clearly for modern vehicles with standard private transfers. You cannot tax a modern vehicle over 3 years old without a valid MOT. If you can tax an historic vehicle (even if the RFL is £0), then I'd say that you are compliant with the law and that number is still yours to place on retention.

Let just hope you never need to test my theory.

[oddjob]

I hope so too, it would be a terrible day if I had to find out.
Hopefully the Land Rover that started this thread will be found soon.
 

[2286]

I've had a worrying thought. The private number plate on my old Series 2 is worth more than the car. It's been in the family for 3 generations and I'd be in deep family trouble if I lost it.
The DVLA says....

You can only get your private registration number back if:

    you told the police about the theft
    the vehicle had a valid MOT certificate when it was stolen
    the vehicle had up-to-date vehicle tax when it was stolen


Which is worrying as I don't take my tax exempt Series 2 for mot's 

Doesn't seem very fair that I need to mot the old thing just in case it gets nicked.

Can anyone conform if it applies to historic vehicles?

 

My interpretation of that.

YOU NEED A CRIME REFERENCE NUMBER
SELF DECLARATION IS ACCEPTED DUE TO MOT EXEMPTION
TAX ALTHOUGH NON CHARGEABLE IS CROSS REFERENCED WITH THE MIB (MOTOR INSURANCE BUREAU)

[chughes5]

I just throw it in the back behind the seats, my motor is full of tools and assorted junk anyway!

I have a bit of rope in the back with a climbing caribeener on the end, throw in the back but then clip it to the caribeener (through the hole at the top the locking bolt goes through when its in use) - one less thing to smack me on the back of the head in an accident.

Have the same for my pedal lock - both really quick to attach/detach

[2286]

Dislok and pedal lock that is belt and braces.

Gone are the sepia tinted days when you left the keys in the ignition and could be assured of coming back to your vehicle!

[kev]

Gone are the sepia tinted days when you left the keys in the ignition and could be assured of coming back to your vehicle!

Reminds me of the time I came out of the newsagents only to be told by a copper that it was an offence to leave your engine running while you popped into the shop.
I said sorry, and there was no further action, wasn’t even asked for my details.

Imagine doing that today…😳

[Alan Drover]

Dislok and pedal lock that is belt and braces.

Definitely needed in these lawless times.

[2286]

Reminds me of the time I came out of the newsagents only to be told by a copper that it was an offence to leave your engine running while you popped into the shop.
I said sorry, and there was no further action, wasn’t even asked for my details.

Imagine doing that today…😳

Dare I say, imagine seeing a police officer.  Even rarer to encounter one that knows and quotes statute.

That is a new piece of legislation to me.

How many people know that to be sat in a vehicle with a mobile phone in your hand and the keys in your procession, not in ignition or running.

You could be booked for intent to drive.


Alan Drover do you have a recommendation for the pedal lock, does your insurer factor all these measures in to your premium.  I know dis lok was or is thatchem and used to make a big deal about it.

[Alan Drover]

I thought it had been illegal on public roads for decade.
The number of unattended vehicles I've seen in the cold snap with engines running to defrost, just jump in and drive away. No insurance company would pay up.

[andrewR]

"Engine idling is illegal under Section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The act enforces Rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states: "You must not leave a vehicle’s engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road."

[Wittsend]

Stems from WWII where you had to disable a vehicle when it was parked up and you couldn't leave the engine running if you went into a shop. A 5th columnist could drive the vehicle away 


 

[Matt Reeves]

Getting back on topic

While the theft of modern "prestige" vehicles and machinery is undoubtedly a well established process when it comes to the taking, shipping (or stripping) and sale of the vehicles or parts, I'm still not convinced the theft of classics, especially series Land Rovers, is being done in quite the same way.

When you consider the amount of pages on social media and forums dedicated to these vehicles and the number of enthusiasts looking at eBay, Facebook marketplace and the like does it not seem strange that there has been zero trace of any of the very distinctive examples taken?

[2286]

"Engine idling is illegal under Section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The act enforces Rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states: "You must not leave a vehicle’s engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road."

Tell that to the folks festooned outside schools hours before pick up just so they can get a space!

[GHOBHW]

another one gone in south london. looks like they're still at it.

saw on a facebook post and thought i'd post here for people to keep an eye out.

remember to keep them locked up, nothing is sacred now.