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Main Section => Welcome to our virtual Pub Meeting ... => Topic started by: 22900013A on February 01, 2023, 07:23:21 AM
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Series IIA 88" kits coming soon.
https://www.themodellingnews.com/2023/01/the-old-88-land-rover-is-new-again-in.html?m=1
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Shame they're not 1/10 scale or 1/18 scale for R/C conversion
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Oooohhh, they look nice. I can see some purchases coming my way...
The 88" models have been very unrepresented in model form in the past. You can buy 1/35 scale 109" soft tops from Italeri and off course Tamiya made their Pink Panther and Marshal ambulance kits but never seen a good 88" before.
I like the station wagon version, might have to start with that one.
Craig.
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Love the Ledbury Road one - used to drive past it all the time!
I always wondered where it ended up. Nice to see it as a model though!
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Good spot, thank you!
Bit of scratch building to move the lights into the wings and all is good!
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The Station Wagon looks good. I'm wondering how to get a deluxe bonnet to replicate mine...
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The Tamiya Pink Panther and the Revell 109" series III kit both have deluxe bonnets. One with just a plate and the other with a dished wheel carrier.
Might be a start if you want to swap bits about.
Craig.
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I imagine it will be easy enough to cross kit with Tamiya or italeri for different versions. Hopefully some aftermarket add-ons will become available too.
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Shame they're not 1/10 scale or 1/18 scale for R/C conversion
They already exist.
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They already exist.
Series 2's in 1/10th?
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There are series 2 shells for RC cars yes, not something I've really investigated as it's not a hobby I follow but I've certainly seen thek, dunno about scale though.
https://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=71395
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Yes, I've seen those vacuum formed shells before, Im hoping for a injection moulded "hardbody" to be produced
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A transkit is available for the Revell 1/24 109 SW to convert it into a Series 2 or 2A.
I’m in the middle of converting one into an early S2. Shame about the door hinges but the rest of it looks ok!
3rd pic is the kit built ‘out of the box’.
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A transkit is available for the Revell 1/24 109 SW to convert it into a Series 2 or 2A.
I’m in the middle of converting one into an early S2. Shame about the door hinges but the rest of it looks ok!
3rd pic is the kit built ‘out of the box’.
Any idea where the transkit can be sourced Bradfordseries2. Had a quick google but no luck! Thanks
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Any idea where the transkit can be sourced Bradfordseries2. Had a quick google but no luck! Thanks
I was going to ask the same question!
By the way, revell are now doing a 109" "commercial" as they call it, basically a three door window hard top with tropical roof.
This is my 98% finished station wagon version.
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Presumably it this?
https://motobitz.uk/news.html
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Presumably it this?
https://motobitz.uk/news.html
Yes that’s the one. There is also a 1-ton transkit too from a different supplier. I’ve got one of those too in my ‘to do’ pile! Pic is their prototype.
https://www.c1-models.com/resin/land-rover-series-109-recovery-truck
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Who is that from? Obviously I'll have to get one and my mate with a 1 Ton wrecker will be wanting one too!
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Who is that from? Obviously I'll have to get one and my mate with a 1 Ton wrecker will be wanting one too!
Link added, I couldn’t remember the name of the supplier!
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I saw that, just emailed them as I can probably provide info on the right axles etc. If someone did a hard top roof and the winch I could do a model of my own vehicle.
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I have one of the Revell 1/24 scale 109" SW that I was going to convert into my IIA. It is a very good kit as it includes both the 10 seat and 12 seat layout so easy to make my 10 seat version. All it needs really is a 4 cylinder engine and off course the series IIA front end and sills. I'll have a look at that look and see what I can order to help the process.
The nicest RC models I've seen are from an American company called Boom Racing.
They have a couple of series III's hopefully coming soon and they do a leaf sprung chassis for it too. The webpage is not very intuitive though so don't despair if you can't find them.
https://www.boomracingrc.com/
Their Defender models look really good.
Craig
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If you want to see some seriously nice model making check out a guy named Alexandr Agajanov on Facebook. Really impressive.
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Just enquired about ordering the 1/24 Revell conversion set to the IIA, lights in the grill model 109" SW.
Think I'll have to do a hybrid kit as I still need the curved apron panel and series III style steering wheel and will need to fabricate the deep sills but, should be good fun.
Now all I need to do is make a 3D model of a 2286 petrol engine and get it on the 3D printer. :coffee
Craig.
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Those Boomracing models look excellent, unfortunatly their website is not working at the moment ???
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Oh yes, web page given up. It was working when I posted that as I copied it straight from the address bar.
Too many series II owners looking at it...
Craig.
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Just enquired about ordering the 1/24 Revell conversion set to the IIA, lights in the grill model 109" SW.
Think I'll have to do a hybrid kit as I still need the curved apron panel and series III style steering wheel and will need to fabricate the deep sills but, should be good fun.
Now all I need to do is make a 3D model of a 2286 petrol engine and get it on the 3D printer. :coffee
Craig.
The transkit comes with the later curved apron, I cut it off mine and made the earlier flat one. You have to scratch build the sills too. The dash would be easy to fit the original kit steering wheel on so that isn’t a problem. I didn’t bother changing the engine as I’m building mine with the bonnet down so you won’t be able to see it anyway!
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I think the Tamiya model is superior to the Italeri version.
I used the Tamiya Pink Panther as the basis of this 88 Rover 8 FFR but it is good to have a new kit
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That's nicely done! I agree The Tamiya is a better kit. Sadly the ambulance version is now rare and very expensive. The italeri kit is old and has many inaccuracies.
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The Station Wagon looks good. I'm wondering how to get a deluxe bonnet to replicate mine...
My thoughts exactly!!!
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Fortunately I have one of the ambulances in the stash of models for a rainy day. Cost me £8.99 from Beatties many years ago.
Tamiya are very good at waiting for many years then re-releasing their kits so you may get lucky in the near future.
Craig.
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I had/have an old ambulance somewhere but I reckon it's missing bits/broken. Made it 20+ years ago.
I ought to grab a couple of pinkies for the stash, would look good with the IDF Jeeps I've done recently.
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I was always surprised at the relative lack of land rover kits, when compared to jeeps and the like, I don't think Airfix even did one in their 1/32 scale range back in the day. These new ones look great especially the crane!
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I'm no Jeep expert but most *military* versions seems to be available, including the Bantam now. But the civvy ones basically do not exist in kit form. Its actually surprising how few LR kits there are, considering the vast array of types. Nobody has done the 101 or lightweight, we have now got the first 88GS, will be interesting to see what else appears. I believe in the past it was very difficult to get permission from JLR, however it seems things have changed recently, as we have these three, a 107 series1 coming from airfix, and even a scalextric series 1 80" on the way.
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There were white metal kits of Lightweight and 101Fc available a few years ago....
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Yes, I remember those, mixed media resin and white metal, quite small production runs. Quite a different animal to an injection moulded kit.
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https://www.scalemates.com/nl/kits/ak-interactive-ak35012-land-rover-88--1466862
There appears to be a model company with a hole set of series 2 land rovers!!!
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I have one of those 1/35 scale metal and resin kits of a 101 GS somewhere. I'll try to find it sometime.
Another long forgotten name was Hart Models. They used to make a whole range of white metal kits in 1:48 scale. I built one of their 88" series II's I think it was in red, post office decals on it. Still have it somewhere.
Another name to look at although not series vehicles.
https://accurate-armour.com/search?terms=land+rover
Craig.
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https://www.scalemates.com/nl/kits/ak-interactive-ak35012-land-rover-88--1466862
There appears to be a model company with a hole set of series 2 land rovers!!!
Um, yeah, that was my original post which prompted this thread...!
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I have one of those 1/35 scale metal and resin kits of a 101 GS somewhere. I'll try to find it sometime.
Another long forgotten name was Hart Models. They used to make a whole range of white metal kits in 1:48 scale. I built one of their 88" series II's I think it was in red, post office decals on it. Still have it somewhere.
Another name to look at although not series vehicles.
https://accurate-armour.com/search?terms=land+rover
Craig.
AA used to do series III 109"s, hard top and soft top. Being mixed media kits they are quite expensive though and need a bit more skill than plastic.
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AA still do the series IIIs
https://accurate-armour.com/aa-products/135th-land-rover-products
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Going up in scale Kit Form Services produce some very nice models in 1/24 including a Series 2A Ambulance a 101 and a Lightweight.
https://kitformservices.com/collections/all-kit-form-services-products
Although these are also mixed media (resin and white metal) they are a lot easier to build than the traditional resin kits from Accurate Armour as all of the resin bits are separated from the sprues.
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I got the kit today from Motobitz to convert my Revell 109" SW into a series IIA
https://motobitz.uk/index.html
Very nice looking bits they are too. You get the new front grille panel, metal etched grille, new dashboard, individual window wiper motors, new wipers, new steering wheel and a 4 cylinder transmission tunnel. The website is a bit confused by the dates as they state series II's have the lights in the middle and IIA are in the wings but just order according to the photos, not the dates they specify and you will get the right thing.
I'll be building my 1967 IIA from the kit so I won't be using the individual wiper motors or the wire spoke steering wheel. I may well use the new wipers though as they look a lot nicer than the kit versions. I will have a go at altering the windscreen brackets and see if I can 3D print new door hinges. The hinges may be a bit small for the printer though. Deeper sill panels should be easy to fabricate from plastic sheet.
I also ordered a sheet of silver number plate letters and numbers from them in 1/24 scale so I can make my own number plates up.
I'll get started on that soon as the HMS Warrior I'm building at the minute is out the way. That is a wooden model at 1/100 scale. It is pretty large.
Craig.
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Meccano produced a Land Rover kit. I can't remember which version it was but I bought one at the Newbury Land Rover event way back. I never assembled it (apparently it's worth more if not assembled) and when I put my collection of die-casts including many Land Rovers for auction it was sold with them.
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I got the kit today from Motobitz to convert my Revell 109" SW into a series IIA
https://motobitz.uk/index.html
Very nice looking bits they are too. You get the new front grille panel, metal etched grille, new dashboard, individual window wiper motors, new wipers, new steering wheel and a 4 cylinder transmission tunnel. The website is a bit confused by the dates as they state series II's have the lights in the middle and IIA are in the wings but just order according to the photos, not the dates they specify and you will get the right thing.
I'll be building my 1967 IIA from the kit so I won't be using the individual wiper motors or the wire spoke steering wheel. I may well use the new wipers though as they look a lot nicer than the kit versions. I will have a go at altering the windscreen brackets and see if I can 3D print new door hinges. The hinges may be a bit small for the printer though. Deeper sill panels should be easy to fabricate from plastic sheet.
I also ordered a sheet of silver number plate letters and numbers from them in 1/24 scale so I can make my own number plates up.
I'll get started on that soon as the HMS Warrior I'm building at the minute is out the way. That is a wooden model at 1/100 scale. It is pretty large.
Craig.
If you are successful printing off hinges I'm sure myself and others would be interested in buying them.
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If you are successful printing off hinges I'm sure myself and others would be interested in buying them.
Definitely! I have got another Revell kit to cut down a 109 into an 88 to make a model of my own 1960. Would be better with the right hinges on it!
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On a more intermediate level airfix are releasing a series 1 lwb later this year. Perhaps the club can persuade them to do a series II? ;)
https://uk.airfix.com/products/starter-set-land-rover-series-1-a55012
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I got an email over the weekend from Jadlam models advertising upcoming releases.
Seems Revell are going to make a 109" hard top to go with the station wagon in 1/24 scale.
I'm guessing it will be much the same kit underneath with just a different bodyshell moulding and different seats so expect it will be another 6 cylinder engine under the bonnet.
The series II conversion kit from Motobitz will presumably still fit as well.
https://www.jadlamracingmodels.com/revell-07056-land-rover-series-iii-lwb-commercial-1-24-model-kit/?
Craig.
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I have seen that one, it has a few detail differences too, hopefully they will make a few different variants of the S3 possibly an 88” version.
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I did post about that a while ago. The engine appears to be some kind of turbo diesel.
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Here's something different, it's series 1 but you never know they could make a series 2 - faster than the real thing :-X :-X
https://uk.scalextric.com/products/land-rover-series-1-green-c4441
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Almost worth digging out my old scalextric track for that!
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I got an email over the weekend from Jadlam models advertising upcoming releases.
Seems Revell are going to make a 109" hard top to go with the station wagon in 1/24 scale.
I'm guessing it will be much the same kit underneath with just a different bodyshell moulding and different seats so expect it will be another 6 cylinder engine under the bonnet.
The series II conversion kit from Motobitz will presumably still fit as well.
https://www.jadlamracingmodels.com/revell-07056-land-rover-series-iii-lwb-commercial-1-24-model-kit/?
Craig.
Apart from the safari roof that looks just like a motor I had back in the 90s, even down to the funny little windows in the hard top.
Mine had a Perkins engine mind you, and no glamorous brunette chick either... ;)
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The windows look to be standard export spec hardtop windows.
Getting back to the AK interactive IIAs, seems release will be in the summer but nothing definite. Currently doing their Toyota FJ model, very finely detailed but fiddly, no engine, but I think the LR does have an engine. They will be very good models if the Toyota is anything to go by but don't expect Tamiya levels of simplicity.
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Another Series 1 I'm afraid, but 1/6 scale, metal and expensive
https://www.armortek.co.uk/product/series-1-car/
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My 88" cost less than that! :stars
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mine too....£800 for a 88" 2a station wagon on ebay.....in 2019..
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Another Series 1 I'm afraid, but 1/6 scale, metal and expensive
https://www.armortek.co.uk/product/series-1-car/
Wow, that is rather nice...
I have a friend who has an Armourtek Tiger one tank. It is so well made all from metal and seriously powerful. Real piece of engineering. The series one is a bargain compared to the tanks though....
Craig.
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Another Series 1 I'm afraid, but 1/6 scale, metal and expensive
https://www.armortek.co.uk/product/series-1-car/
Aluminium chassis and steel body????? :stars
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I would like to see a real one and understand the 1/6 scale rather than some CAD drawings. One would have hoped they've at least built a prototype got that sort of money.
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I think I've seen a couple of pictures of a prototype.... But I can't find them now.
The brother in law has 3 Armortek tanks, all unfinished, but I have to say the quality of the component parts is pretty good 👍🏻
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Although a cooler, AA just released this one which I've ordered myself.
https://accurate-armour.com/aa-products/135th-land-rover-products/lr015
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Not quite in the same league as the others, but this currently resides in the spare bedroom.
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I never knew that Palitoy did a Lightweight. I still have my Action Man Jeep from when I was young. Must look out for the LWT. Far more in keeping!
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Although a coiler, I thought some night appreciate these pics of the accurate Armour Israeli scud hunter 110 I've been working on.
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Nice work! What is your preferred method for painting? Do you fully assemble and paint (airbrush?) once complete ?
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Usually I either paint sub-assemblies or just do the whole thing once finished. Just did a comet tank with airbrush that came out well, this I'll do the same but in IDF Sinai grey/brown. It was a real fiddle with the photo etch etc but worth it in the end and probably not as bad as one may imagine. Being resin it's quite heavy too.
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My Revell Series 3 with Motobitz S2 transkit is nearly finished! At last. It goes together quite well, although I had to modify the front door cards to clear the S2 dashboard supplied with the transkit.
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Nice work!
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Finished!
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Very nice indeed. I've been cracking on with my Israeli army 110.
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Finished!
The wipers look a bit odd for a twin motor setup? Wouldn't they need "handed" motors to enable them to be parked pointing inwards and flat to the screen bottom edge?
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The wipers look a bit odd for a twin motor setup? Wouldn't they need "handed" motors to enable them to be parked pointing inwards and flat to the screen bottom edge?
As it's a straight six it ls correct to have the later set up.
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I would like to see a real one and understand the 1/6 scale rather than some CAD drawings. One would have hoped they've at least built a prototype got that sort of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPnZSa8N__s
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The wipers look a bit odd for a twin motor setup? Wouldn't they need "handed" motors to enable them to be parked pointing inwards and flat to the screen bottom edge?
Yes they are incorrect. Unfortunately the kit is originally a Series 3 so it has the Series 3 wipers fitted. I did consider attempting to modify them to both face the same way but decided against it. I always parked my S2 wipers the other way, both to the offside of the screens (pic below), I did consider parking the kit ones like this but it didn’t look right with the handed pair of wipers included in the kit.
See below for a pic I have loosely based my model on.
It is modelled after the style of a 1959 SW that I decided to ‘almost’ replicate, so it shouldn’t actually be a 2.6, rather a 2.25. But when the bonnet is down you can’t see the wrong engine! :tiphat
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As it's a straight six it ls correct to have the later set up.
No S2 was built with a straight six AFAIK. The six was available as an option in the 2A from 1967, maybe the single wiper motor with rack came in then, too. My '70 2A (originally 2.25 petrol four) haste single motor setup. (And the cranked wiper arms to go with it.)
:tiphat
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No S2 was built with a straight six AFAIK. The six was available as an option in the 2A from 1967, maybe the single wiper motor with rack came in then, too. My '70 2A (originally 2.25 petrol four) haste single motor setup. (And the cranked wiper arms to go with it.)
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I'm well aware of that, but the model is not detailed enough to definitively be a series 2 rather than a IIA.
The single wiper motor/black dash/negative earth electrics were all introduced along with the 2.6 engine in 1967, no production sixes had twin wipers etc with the possible exception of the NADA station wagons.
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https://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-35-land-rover-88-crane-tow-truck-ak-interactive/
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That is looking nice.
I can see from the mouldings they include a plain bonnet, one with a wheel carrier, military front wing panels as well as civilian and a civilian and military rear crossmember. Might have to get one of those when they release it.
I see the new Revell 109" Series III has been released as well. They have copied the sample vehicle a bit too closely with a side opening, hinged tailgate and a tailgate window wiper but other than that, looks pretty good.
https://www.jadlamracingmodels.com/revell-07056-land-rover-series-iii-lwb-commercial-1-24-model-kit/?
Craig.
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They launched today and are now on sale.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kD6L5xqEv0
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https://youtu.be/7fIyNfeimX4
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I ordered two of the AK interactive 88" IIA's. I got the station wagon and the recovery crane kits and ordered them direct from their webpage in Spain.
They are very nice. Small at 1:35 scale off course but way more detailed than any other Land Rover kit I have built in the past.
A few things I have noticed however....
The alternator / dynamo is huge on the engine and the drive belt arrangement is odd as in there is a belt that runs from the crank to the water pump then a second belt that goes from the water pump to the alternator.
The bulkhead outriggers have the angle brace at the front of them, easy to remove for earlier models.
The tropical roof panel on the SW version is an odd shape at the front section, that will need modifying I think. It gets wider at the front whereas the real thing is a rectangle shape so it just appears to flatten out at the front.
It has an overdrive.
It has a series III clutch release mechanism.
I guess they had to copy the sample vehicle that was in front of them and assume they took that apart during the process in order to get the details on the gearbox and engine shape.
All in all though, a great little model and should take a good few hours to put together. The etched brass sheet is very good too and the Land Rover badges and grill look very convincing.
I suspect a host of aftermarket resin and brass conversions / upgrades will come along soon as well.
Craig.