Post by: SteveJ on September 13, 2020, 09:32:35 AM
I'm rapidly running out of LPG stations. I did have one end of the road which was nice and convenient, but they removed the LPG, because nobody used it, when they refurbished the station.
There are other LPG stations around here but none are on the routes i regularly travel so to fill up I need to go out of my way to get LPG and by the time I've been there and back I've used up half the LPG (I've only got a 15l tank).
So the question is can you get LPG in bottles delivered to my house so I can refuel the Land Rover?
SteveJ
Post by: Formerlyjeremy on September 13, 2020, 10:11:33 AM
I'm sure there's a reason for secrecy but if you disclose a bit of your location you may find someone can help.
Post by: mistericeman on September 13, 2020, 10:36:56 AM
LPG points are reducing drastically as time goes on as we've found having refillable bottles on the motorhome.
Post by: oilstain on September 13, 2020, 10:46:24 AM
Some fork lifts have the gas bottle on the side but these are special bottles with a internal feed pipe so only the gas at the high point is used
Post by: Genem on September 13, 2020, 11:20:48 AM
I suspect LPG is/will be an interesting marketing case study, a technology that never really took off in the way that its proponents hoped.
Post by: rustylandrovers on September 13, 2020, 11:37:37 AM
As another option, don't suppose there are any commercial/industrial gas suppliers locally are there?
I was thinking about giving up and going diesel, then I discovered that the local commercial gas supplier has a pump. It doesn't show up on google as a petrol station, because it isnt.
Post by: mistericeman on September 13, 2020, 11:46:18 AM
Gives prices etc too.
www.filllpg.co.uk
Post by: Clifford Pope on September 13, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
Or there are pumps for transfering gas from a bottle and compressing it as liquid into the vehicle tank.
But all these devices are somewhat dubious/risky/illegal, and the savings are not very great anyway.
Post by: oilstain on September 13, 2020, 03:13:08 PM
auction: #133512851903........... :whistle
Post by: mistericeman on September 13, 2020, 04:13:50 PM
Perhaps somthing like this is what you need ???
........... :whistle
Hope that motor is intrinsically safe....
Post by: rustynuts on September 14, 2020, 12:42:58 AM
Hope that motor is intrinsically safe....That wouldn't be possible. Intrinsic safety is limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance concerned, which is far below that needed to run a motor. Hazardous area motors are usually flameproof, which means any penetrations into the equipment are designed such that if any flammable gas got inside and ignited, the flame would be quenched before it exited.
You may be in for a shock if you buy bottled LPG. The price can vary quite a bit from area to area. A friend of mine who uses LPG for cooking fills his bottles up at a petrol station because it is much cheaper, despite the road fuel duty.
Post by: oilstain on September 14, 2020, 06:51:13 AM
That wouldn't be possible. Intrinsic safety is limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance concerned, which is far below that needed to run a motor. Hazardous area motors are usually flameproof, which means any penetrations into the equipment are designed such that if any flammable gas got inside and ignited, the flame would be quenched before it exited.With regard to motor saftey, I read that brushless dewalt tools can be used in such conditions as no sparks are produced, if true this sort of motor could be used in a LPG pump ???
You may be in for a shock if you buy bottled LPG. The price can vary quite a bit from area to area. A friend of mine who uses LPG for cooking fills his bottles up at a petrol station because it is much cheaper, despite the road fuel duty.
Post by: Clifford Pope on September 14, 2020, 08:26:30 AM
Post by: SteveJ on September 14, 2020, 10:20:38 PM
Beginning to seriously think about decommissioning and removing the lpg system.
Time to go electric.
SteveJ
Post by: rustynuts on September 14, 2020, 10:23:20 PM
Starter motors and alternators used on boats are made intrinsically safe, because of the well-known risk of inflammable gas accumulating in the bilges. That's one reason why they are so expensive compared with apparently interchangeable components from a car.Oh no they're not! They would be ATEX certified, i.e. legally suitable for use in potentially explosive atmospheres by way of being constructed most likely using flameproof or explosion proof concepts. Intrinsic safety is another approved protection concept under ATEX, but as previously stated is based upon limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance. In broad terms this equates to limitation of equipment power to a little over 1 Watt, so that would be a rather small alternator or starter motor. That's why intrinsic safety is limited to use on low power equipment such as instrumentation. :-\ :tiphat
Post by: rustynuts on September 14, 2020, 10:34:35 PM
Thanks for all the info. At one point i was think about having a fixed tank installed, but looking at the distance the tank has to be from my house, I don’t think my neighbours would let me put it in their garden.If you have a natural gas supply to your house you could buy a compressor and storage tank and convert your vehicle. Someone on the forum does this, I forget who. The compressor is the most expensive bit (a few thousand) so it's only worth it if you can get one on the cheap or do a high mileage. I thought about doing this for at least a couple of minutes until I decided I can live with the nearest LPG station being 10 miles away!
Beginning to seriously think about decommissioning and removing the lpg system.
Time to go electric.
SteveJ