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Title: Spring starter
Post by: rustylandrovers on March 19, 2021, 08:15:34 PM
Youtube knows me too well, and served me this up earlier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0I-EHsmkME&ab_channel=KinetecoInternationalLimited (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0I-EHsmkME&ab_channel=KinetecoInternationalLimited)

I've never seen one before, but it seems a nice concept. (Not really s2 related, but I thought it was pretty cool.)
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Genem on March 19, 2021, 09:05:37 PM
It would certainly save a few broken thumbs...
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: ChrisJC on March 19, 2021, 09:14:47 PM
I think your average 2 1/4 engine will not start on the 1st compression like that one!

Chris.
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Eve on March 19, 2021, 09:15:08 PM
My dad has an ancient Hayterette lawn mower that had a wind up starter. It worked really well.
At some point in its past the mechanism wore out and it now has a cord pull starter.
It was quite a novelty and I've not seen anything like it since.
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: rustylandrovers on March 20, 2021, 07:12:58 AM
It would certainly save a few broken thumbs...

I stuck a V8 in the 110 recently. It's from an '80 rrc, so still has the starter dogs on the crank pulley bolt. It's been built to high compression spec though, I've not had the stones to try and start it on the handle...
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: rustylandrovers on March 20, 2021, 07:15:29 AM
I think your average 2 1/4 engine will not start on the 1st compression like that one!

Chris.

I guess in most practical situations, with an S2 you'd be better off bump starting it. I like the concept though, especially for things like boats as mentioned in the video.
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Peter Holden on March 20, 2021, 08:59:03 AM
The old Field Marshall tractors used to have a cartridge start, a 12 bore cartridge minus shot inserted in a holder and struck with a mallet.  They had one on the farm where my grandad worked.  Once started in the morning the engine was never stopped all day.

We used to have and Aveling Barford calf dozer (a mini bulldozer in year sgone by)  It had an 800cc single cylinder dorman petrol engine..  Starting procedure was turn on the fuel at the tap under the gravity feed fuel tank, prime the carb (for a cold start also move the choke lever), switch on the ignition, insert the crank handle and make sure it is engaged and then hold down the decompression lever and swing the handle as hard as you can once the engine is turning over at a reasonable speed (so that the magneto can produce a spark) let go of the decompressor and away it would go.

The photo below shows it with the bucket on the front

Peter
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Manxcat on March 20, 2021, 06:26:18 PM
That is the modern version of the Lucas CAV Spring Starters.
Those would easily start a Land Rover Engine, if it is properly set up.
Also see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SAM9JZsM-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ42J82RYUU


When you try starting the 110's V8 by hand, video it please...
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Manxcat on March 20, 2021, 06:27:17 PM

The photo below shows it with the bucket on the front

Peter

Is that Iain Anderson of Jethro Tull starting it?   :-X
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Herald1360 on March 20, 2021, 07:42:13 PM
That is the modern version of the Lucas CAV Spring Starters.
Those would easily start a Land Rover Engine, if it is properly set up.
Also see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SAM9JZsM-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ42J82RYUU


When you try starting the 110's V8 by hand, video it please...

I suspect finding room to fit it and swing the handle would be the show stopper for a Land Rover engine.
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Manxcat on March 20, 2021, 10:26:12 PM
I suspect finding room to fit it and swing the handle would be the show stopper for a Land Rover engine.

That's just a packaging problem.
Longer shaft on the handle, fit the spring starter where you can.

They'll start a good condition Land Rover engine. :coffee
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: rustylandrovers on March 21, 2021, 06:22:43 AM

When you try starting the 110's V8 by hand, video it please...

Challenge accepted.
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: Manxcat on March 21, 2021, 09:59:01 AM
Challenge accepted.

 :first
Title: Re: Spring starter
Post by: 34058 on March 21, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
Is that Iain Anderson of Jethro Tull starting it?   :-X

I don't think so.  That chap is standing on both legs!

David