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Main Section => Welcome to our virtual Pub Meeting ... => Topic started by: Genem on July 13, 2021, 06:12:03 PM
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We hear a lot about the oldies from '58, :neener
Whats the youngest vehicle in the Club ( sparked by a comment on Facebook). As a starter, mine was made 30th September 1971, Despatched on 5th October.
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I'll chuck my new WOMBAT portee 109 SIIA project into the hat: build date of 30-03-72. Last assigned chassis number of the 251- (109" utility) prefixes. Starting my research project in this thread: https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,7907.msg87519.html#msg87519 (https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,7907.msg87519.html#msg87519)
Are you looking for the youngest SII/SIIA specifically or the youngest vehicle all together? (eg SIII/Defender... Evoque/etc)
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^^^^ I was thinking Series 2A ? No point in later models, some-one will just buy a new one...
???
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ha ha - cheers Gene: I'll be really interested to see what you find out.
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I think we will find that it will be a Lightweight. They carried on building to the 2A spec well into the Series 3 era.
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Will have to work out where I have filed my logbook, but my series 2B FC is pretty young in terms of registration. May 1972 according to the DVLA vehicle checker.
Possibly as it’s a fire engine might not have been registered until the conversion was completed. No idea on the build date.
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^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?
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Big Ears our Dormobile first reg 26/5/72 but how long it took Martin Walters to build one no idea. From the chassis number I don't think it was the last of the export six pots built.
Alec
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My 1971 2a is one of the last 88” basic home market chassis built. Registered late September 71. Somebody will have got a good deal on it when new as it was registered after the release of the new Series 3!
It is overdue a new chassis and bulkhead. It’s waiting for the new workshop to be built though!
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^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?
Can I suggest that we leave out CKD vehicles? Our VRO will finally fall on his sword if he has to work that lot out... Having worked on African CKD for Defender and been involved with Freelander in Thailand, I know that record keeping is abysmal! Just don't go there...
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^^^^ I was going to volunteer to fly out, with a notebook and camera ! I'd settle for flights and invoiced expenses ?
:coffee
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Mine is a October 71 registered SWB truck cab. I believe it was a truck cab originally and a quick search of the ‘KGT’ reg indicates it was registered in SW London area.
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I suppose thinking about this, we should be applying build date, not first registration date. This would get past the issues like Marshall ambulance builds for example.
Just a guess, but a London registered 2A is probably more likely to be a fleet vehicle rather than privately owned. SW London isn't the most obvious place to see a SWB pickup I'd guess unless its been ordered for one of the Commons or Parks. (Or perhaps a P&T vehicle)?
Late registration of fleet stuff is very common still even in the age of widespread contract hire.
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Quote from: Genem on July 14, 2021, 09:29:57 AM
^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?
Can I suggest that we leave out CKD vehicles? Our VRO will finally fall on his sword if he has to work that lot out... Having worked on African CKD for Defender and been involved with Freelander in Thailand, I know that record keeping is abysmal! Just don't go there...
Aw!! spoilsport!! But I see your point.
My SADF 2BFC was registered in 2011 after a long battle by the then VRO and his team as a 1971 production -- the clincher being the engine number/suffix.
A couple of years later I met Jan Vorster who built the Overlander motorhomes on ex-SADF radio trucks and he was of the opinion that the SADF had regular deliveries each year of the 2BFC. Mine is no.328 of a range that a lot of official sources used to say did not exist, nowadays amended to "no records available". I mentioned the problems getting it registered and the lack of UK records for later post S1 CKD builds and he said that he was not surprised, at least in regards to the SA vehicles as they were being exported to SA in spite of the embargo due to apartheid.
I mentioned the chassis number and asked about the total numbers. He said the SADF had only a fraction of the total number and his personal Overlander was a few numbers higher than mine. There are claims out on the net that over 440 is the highest number known.[of 332 variant -RHD CKD]
My log book says first registered in 1994. Jan said this was wrong as they were built a year or two earlier than that, and what I had would have been the registration when it changed owners, or alternatively when the licence category was changed.
The Newcastle registration I have shows that it was registered [presumably to a Belgian missionary type from the docs] as a "mobile clinic" -- a tax saving dodge from way back. I also got a hand drawn map of the CKGR and KutseGR which I think are game reserves in Botswana. It must have been mainly accommodation for him as the mileage was not high at under 14000.
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Yep, I agree build date is the important date. I was surprised myself to see SW London for registration but I may be wrong it was a quick search. I’ve always believed it to have been a farmers vehicle from registration but I suppose a more detailed search of history will throw up more concrete facts.
By the way what’s P&T? (I’m probably about to make myself look daft 😂)
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My 109” 6 pot was first registered 1/10/71. The serial no is 1532 which if memory serves me is in the last 750 made. I think my SII may be a bit later in the SII run because it was first registered in 1962, I’ll have to dig out the info.
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By the way what’s P&T? (I’m probably about to make myself look daft 😂)
No - not at all. Its me.. I grew up in Ireland. We referred to the Post Office vehicles as the Post and Telegraph vehicles after the Department of Post and Telegraphs - hence P&T. Ignore me - totally irrelevant. I was thinking more of the UK Post Office fleet, but mixed up the names!
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My 109” 6 pot was first registered 1/10/71. The serial no is 1532 which if memory serves me is in the last 750 made. I think my SII may be a bit later in the SII run because it was first registered in 1962, I’ll have to dig out the info.
My 88” was first registered 12/02/1962 however the serial number doesn’t really tie in with it being that late. The table I have seen suggests 17,000+ were built in 1961 but my serial number is only 10,000+ the notes on the table say that the figures are not accurate and they are more of an even split over the production years so it’s difficult to tell.