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Main Section => Welcome to our virtual Pub Meeting ... => Topic started by: crumbly65 on October 01, 2021, 11:47:22 AM
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Sorry for this completely off topic subject, but I've always benefitted from the wealth of common sense and experience on this forum, so I'd thought I'd ask.........
SWMBO and I are going out to buy a new wheelbarrow. Our old garden one has rusted through after nearly 40 years, and has a permanent slow leak from it's (very, very old) pneumatic tyre.
I'm thinking a galvanised body for the barrow, but I'm wondering about whether to get solid-tyred or pneumatic-tyred?
Any views?
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I favour Haemmerlin with a pneumatic wheel, they do a galvanised job. Not cheap but last decades
https://www.haemmerlin.co.uk/products/aktiv/original-galv/
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The benefit of a pneumatic tyre for hopping over minor obstacles outweighs the very very very very very rare inconvenience of a puncture in my opinion.
I have one of each, and prefer the pneumatic tyred one.
Chris.
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I have a Haemmerlin too but the plastic bodied version, still pneumatic though.
https://www.haemmerlin.co.uk/products/aktiv-extreme/alpha-poly/
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It’s always easier to push a pneumatic tyred barrow than a solid one.
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You need pneumatic tyres.
If you are worried about punctures then use Slime:-
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/slime.jpg)
I think you can get similar in aerosol cans from bike shops.
You squirt the stuff into the inner tube, it stays gooey and seals any puncture you might pick up :first
:RHD
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Another vote for Haemmerlin We got our 120L one from Wickes for £53 a few months ago and it seemed to be the best price at the time, we nearly missed it because they market it using the model name rather than the brand name on the wicker website: https://www.wickes.co.uk/Chillington-County-Galvanised-Wheelbarrow-120L/p/167429
I see Homebase are doing the non-galvanised version for £40 at the moment: https://www.homebase.co.uk/chillington-county-wheelbarrow-120l/12835844.html
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we use plastic bodied barrows now as the stable waste rots the metal barrows over time. If you get a good quality barrow the solid tyres are the way to go I would not get a barrow with a pneumatic tyre again. The slime stuff is good but doesn't seem to last more than a couple of years before going watery and stopping working.
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Thanks all! :first
To be fair to our old barrow, it has been around for 40+ years, and I think it was second hand when we got it. It has had all the hard years of house and garden renovations, so our new barrow will have a really gentle life.
I just couldn't decide on pneumatic or solid tyres. I wouldn't expect any punctures, and there's a tyre fitting old-style garage a couple of miles away who could (and do) repair punctured barrow tyres, should i get one. I like the idea of a solid tyre type, but think when the ground is soft, the pneumatic will be better at rolling over our lawn.
There's no rough ground, no thorny hedges, so I'm thinking I'm going to go for the largest, pneumatic tyred, galvanised one.
Once again, this forum has proved invaluable, and the the patient, solid advice a measure of why it's such an important resource to me in my retirement. I'd be lost without you guys, thank you.
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I've never bought a wheelbarrow but have made extensive use of them over decades.
The worst thing with a barrow is keeping it somewhere where it doesn't offend the eye and take up too much space but there is an upside .... this generally means they get moved on to a new owner for free.
This barrow malaise has meant I've " inherited " four barrows over the years from folks eager to move theirs on, usually in nice clean condition too.
Barrows - galv is great and pneumatic tyre is best for gardening and building works ( manure, well I guess it rots everything except plastic ? )
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I’ve replaced the standard, paper thin (2 ply?) tyre with a similarly sized trailer tyre, 4.00-8, at a guess. Much more robust, even if the tread is mostly gone.
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Hi,
Appearance wise, assuming like for like, I would have thought that a solid tyre would cost more than pneumatic. Maybe solid tyres are more akin to elasiv bands.
Advice, from experience. Do not leave a barrow leaning against the shed, so that rain water can trickle into the open ends of the handles ... the front bit rusts from the inside.
If I had to push a loaded barrow over a lawn, I would prefer it was on a pneumatic tyre.
A Bedford RL will require four wheel drive, and a low gear, to churn it's way through Arabian sand. But if you drop the tyre pressure from 70 to 20psi. it will just waft, in 4x2 and top gear, over soft sand that is difficult to walk through. I have very little experience of driving over wet grass.
602
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I also had trailer tyres fitted to our barrows.....no more punctures!
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Anyone who can change a bicycle tyre can do a wheelbarrow. Use a couple of (large) spoons as tyre levers.
The thing that "gets" wheelbarrow tyres is being exposed to sunlight during storage. They soon crack and craze, just like any other tyre. You need some sort of cover when the barrow is not in use.
:RHD
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Storage solution would seem to be to put it in the shed! :bright-idea
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Advice, from experience. Do not leave a barrow leaning against the shed, so that rain water can trickle into the open ends of the handles ... the front bit rusts from the inside.
The obvious solution would be to prop the barrow up resting on its handles. I always forget though, so the front end rusts and eventually collapses.
The perfect design would have a sturdier piece at the front. If you do a lot of tipping on hard surfaces like concrete the rounded end wears out anyway.
Another improvement would be to have the front bit curve upwards just in front of the wheel so that the front was less inclined to ground suddenly when pushing over rough terrain.
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Good Evening All,
Go on then somebody tell me why you can buy a wheelbarrow with a galvanised 'bucket' but it is then fitted to a *&%^$ piece of mild steel framework. Guess which rots first especially used in a horsey environment?
Regards
Richard
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I have a nice galvanised framed barrow, complete with rusted body!
Rescued from a skip
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Hi,
Some wheel barrows come with a plastic monocoque tub and frame.
Why can't you buy a plastic tub for a builders barrow ... it should carry sand and wet cement, but probably not bricks and heavy rubble.
602
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Another vote for plastic bodies.
Ours was metal, but the barrow rusted through. I managed to scrounge a plastic body from another barrow where the frame had rusted through, and stuck it on. That's been out stables barrow for about a decade like that (total age about 18 years). The plastic wheel exploded through UV brittleness, so replaced that for a fiver - but otherwise it's the hardest working little trigger's broom I know.
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Case in point - I've been collecting horse manure from a field this afternoon and realised the barrow is literally on its last legs. The curved bit of the frame at the front has rusted apart, so is only held by the axle.
The tub is held onto the frame by baler twine, and the connecting link across the back of the tub has rusted through.
So it is very wobbly to push, and when set down tends to bend over one way or the other.
But the tyre is good, so it's not quite dead yet :)
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Following this topic:
https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php?action=post;topic=8860.0;last_msg=98297
Post some pics of your wheelbarrow.
Stay on topic by having something Land Rover related in your barra’.😁
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The more obvious solution is to buy 2 wheelbarrows.
A metal tub one for heavy duty building work ...
And a plastic tub for the stable yard type duties.
:tiphat
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It's rare there's much rubble type stuff in my "plastic" barrow, more likely logs etc but it's very strong and I have no doubt it could cope with bricks and stuff, especially in a domestic environment.
In fact I just read the blurb on the Haemmerlin site and the polycarbonate bodes are up to the task of construction sites....
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Here's my wittsbarrow.
It's a B&Q model left here by some builders we had in about 10 years ago.
I guess it's mine now, paid for in their bill!
I've had to Gorilla glue the handles back on, otherwise it's good to go.
So much so that I cleared those weeds (nettles) out as the garden bins are emptied tomorrow.
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After a spirited discussion, SWMBO decided that this will be our (!) :-X new wheelbarrow.
It's extremely light, and does feel a little odd at first, as it's completely plastic and twin-wheeled with solid tyres. However, on initial use, it dealt with 4 x 60 litre bags of multi-compost very easily, how it deals with logs during the coming winter remains to be seen...... 99% of it's use will be light garden duties, no rubble or concrete etc, so it should be ok.
I'll report further if there any problems......
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Two-wheeled barrows, as above, are fine on smooth surfaces. On rougher ground though, it’s a constant battle with the handles as they yank the operator from side to side.
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Hi,
Ditto a lot of the above, but referring to cement mixers ... I think a new drum used to cost about £40.
And then there's Royal Marine Sankeys, which rust due to nobody removing the "flotation" plugs (I understand that Marine Sankeys are intended to float), which means they fill with rain water, and rust from the inside.
602
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In 1984 I went to my local Jewsons and bought a builders barrow, to protect it I painted it with black bitchmun paint and have repeated the painting process 3 or 4 times since after the paint wore off. I have also added air to the tyre a few times. When not in use I put it away out of the rain in the cellar. The barrow is still in good condition and with care will see me out, all for a few pounds, I think about £6, perhaps less
Yes I’m tight
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Metal for me. Plastic ones just provide a huge contribution to the excessive amount of plastic we already produce and use :'(
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Hi Clifford,
My father told me that spades used to shovel the smelly stuff are always shiny.
And my mate's wife, an AI, always waggled her boots into the dung heap, to keep her feet warm.
Isn't petrol a by-product of the plastics industry ... take care what you wish for.
602
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If you can get a Garden Way with bicycle tires in the UK, then do so. They last for decades. Perfect product.
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And my mate's wife, an AI, always waggled her boots into the dung heap, to keep her feet warm.
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I found that standing in silage while feeding cattle off the back of a trailer kept my feet warm in the winter of 1962/3.
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Metal for me. Plastic ones just provide a huge contribution to the excessive amount of plastic we already produce and use :'(
Its hardly the same as single use plastic is it ? and do plastic wheel barrows really add that much of a huge contribution to excess plastic I agree single use plastic should be curtailed where possible
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Its hardly the same as single use plastic is it ? and do plastic wheel barrows really add that much of a huge contribution to excess plastic I agree single use plastic should be curtailed where possible
I just think every place I can easily avoid using it I will do. The amount of plastic in a plastic wheelbarrow is quite significant. I would be surprised if your local recycling centre would take it as recyclable material and it will probably end up in general landfill (even if you have used it for 10 years or more). Each to their own, as I say I would always buy a metal one. It's easier for me to repair as well.