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[Peter Holden]

Saw one for the first time actually in the flesh on the road in our village.  I didnt have chance to stop and crawl all over it but it did look like the proper successor to the pre 2016 Defender

It had sales stickers from our local BMW franchise so they must be also selling Grenadiers


Peter

[diffwhine]

BMW are sales outlets for a lot of Grenadiers globally - especially in the US if I recall. BMW engines, ZF 8 Speed transmission - those are really the only obviously high tech bits in it, so makes sense to have BMW support.

[Wittsend]

 

 

[diffwhine]

We had one at Malvern last weekend...
They placed us by the LR Register stand...

[Mycroft]

Loving the open board room warfare 

Looks great Mark - and I never thought I'd say that. I'm looking forward to my first spot in the wild too. I'm predicting the Waitrose car park...

[diffwhine]

I'll have one at my house next week. If you fancy a trip out, you are welcome to come and have a look at it.

[Mycroft]

Gawd, I'd love to if you had any time for a quick coffee and drool!

[crumbly65]

I pulled up behind a Ineos Grenadier at a busy T Junction a few weeks back. It turned left and I right.

 It did look the business, though SWMBO thought it a bit somber as it was predominately  black in colour..   

I’d certainly have one.

[Eve]

I saw one on display at a steam and country fair a few weeks ago.
Was able to clamber inside and also lift the bonnet.
First impressions: it was big, felt solid and was well put together.
I liked it.

[Exile]

I'm predicting the Waitrose car park...

No, Waitrose car park is reserved for the new "Defender".

[Phil2014]

No, Waitrose car park is reserved for the new "Defender".

Can we have a ‘yawn’ emoji please Alan.

[Mycroft]

Can we have a ‘yawn’ emoji please Alan.

Funnily enough, my local Waitrose car park (which just happens to be one of the town's main car parks) is exactly where I first spotted the new Defender a few years back. I'm hoping it won't let me down when it comes to Grenadier spotting.

[dartymoor]

I saw one at Devon County Show last week and had a peer through the windows.

Looks nice, but I didn't see the price. I can't imagine it will be cheaper than the Asian 4x4s which start at 30k for a basic Hilux, or a Fully loaded DMax at 50k - hugely popular in some countries. Without the grenadier being made in the UK it feels like it's main USP no longer exists. It's just another big, expensive (probably) shiny square piece of metal made elsewhere in a world full of similar things.

Now JLR's 'Defender' has actually convinced quite a few people to buy it, it's not really an underdog any more.

[diffwhine]

Wearing both hats, all I would say is both vehicles have a place. Its not built in the UK for simple economical reasons. People need to remember that we manufacture very little here - almost all our car assembly is based on components built in other markets, so where it is all thrown together is largely irrelevant. It was designed and engineered here (and in Austria). Quite a few components are made in the UK. Both Defender and Discovery (supposedly archetypal British vehicles) are both built in Slovakia...

Those who want it will want it and those who don't will chose to buy something different. As I say repeatedly - the Defender is phenomenally capable and impressive. Its just not my cup of tea. The Grenadier ticks an awful lot of boxes for me. I like it and I want one!

[ChrisJC]

It was designed and engineered here (and in Austria).

I'm intrigued by that comment - I thought all of the engineering was done by Magna Steyr. Was some done elsewhere?

Chris.