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[SteveJ]

My 58 runs of LPG and Petrol.

I'm rapidly running out of LPG stations. I did have one end of the road which was nice and convenient, but they removed the LPG, because nobody used it, when they refurbished the station.

There are other LPG stations around here but none are on the routes i regularly travel so to fill up I need to go out of my way to get LPG and by the time I've been there and back I've used up half the LPG (I've only got a 15l tank).

So the question is can you get LPG in bottles delivered to my house so I can refuel the Land Rover?

SteveJ

[Formerlyjeremy]

Try google - for bottled gas - and see what they say - or ring the suppliers up.

I'm sure there's a reason for secrecy but if you disclose a bit of your location you may find someone can help.

[mistericeman]

You'll struggle to transfer bottle to tank as tanks are liquid filled... All that would happen IF you tried would be the bottle pressures equalise and you'll end up with a small amount of lpg transfer.

LPG points are reducing drastically as time goes on as we've found having refillable bottles on the motorhome.

[oilstain]

Some years ago I knew someone with a LPG car who ran it on LPG bottles with a normal regulator on the top of the tank. he told me it was fine as long as the gas bottle in use was used upright as the liquid vaporates to the top and liquid should not go down the feed pipe.
Some fork lifts have the gas bottle on the side but these are special bottles with a internal feed pipe so only the gas at the high point is used

[Genem]

A local farm has a method of tapping LPG from their heating tank ....but 4000 litres is probably a bit more than you want !

I suspect LPG is/will be an interesting marketing case study, a technology that never really took off in the way that its proponents hoped.

[rustylandrovers]

I briefly looked at this when I thought the last local LPG station has closed. In short, if you want to do it legally you'll need a very expensive static tank installed.

As another option, don't suppose there are any commercial/industrial gas suppliers locally are there?

I was thinking about giving up and going diesel, then I discovered that the local commercial gas supplier has a pump. It doesn't show up on google as a petrol station, because it isnt.

[mistericeman]

We use this app to find lpg points when we are out and about....

Gives prices etc too.

www.filllpg.co.uk

[Clifford Pope]

You can I believe use an ordinary gas bottle mounted upside down, so that liquid comes out rather than gas.
Or there are pumps for transfering gas from a bottle and compressing it as liquid into the vehicle tank.
But all these devices are somewhat dubious/risky/illegal, and the savings are not very great anyway.

[oilstain]

Perhaps somthing like this is what you need
auction: #133512851903

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[mistericeman]

Perhaps somthing like this is what you need
auction: #133512851903

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Hope that motor is intrinsically safe....

[rustynuts]

Hope that motor is intrinsically safe....

That wouldn't be possible. Intrinsic safety is limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance concerned, which is far below that needed to run a motor. Hazardous area motors are usually flameproof, which means any penetrations into the equipment are designed such that if any flammable gas got inside and ignited, the flame would be quenched before it exited.

You may be in for a shock if you buy bottled LPG. The price can vary quite a bit from area to area. A friend of mine who uses LPG for cooking fills his bottles up at a petrol station because it is much cheaper, despite the road fuel duty.

[oilstain]

That wouldn't be possible. Intrinsic safety is limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance concerned, which is far below that needed to run a motor. Hazardous area motors are usually flameproof, which means any penetrations into the equipment are designed such that if any flammable gas got inside and ignited, the flame would be quenched before it exited.

You may be in for a shock if you buy bottled LPG. The price can vary quite a bit from area to area. A friend of mine who uses LPG for cooking fills his bottles up at a petrol station because it is much cheaper, despite the road fuel duty.

With regard to motor saftey, I read that brushless dewalt tools can be used in such conditions as no sparks are produced, if true this sort of motor could be used in a LPG pump

[Clifford Pope]

Starter motors and alternators used on boats are made intrinsically safe, because of the well-known risk of inflammable gas accumulating in the bilges. That's one reason why they are so expensive compared with apparently interchangeable components from a car.

[SteveJ]

Thanks for all the info. At one point i was think about having a fixed tank installed, but looking at the distance the tank has to be from my house, I don’t think my neighbours would let me put it in their garden.

Beginning to seriously think about decommissioning and removing the lpg system.

Time to go electric.

SteveJ

[rustynuts]

Starter motors and alternators used on boats are made intrinsically safe, because of the well-known risk of inflammable gas accumulating in the bilges. That's one reason why they are so expensive compared with apparently interchangeable components from a car.

Oh no they're not! They would be ATEX certified, i.e. legally suitable for use in potentially explosive atmospheres by way of being constructed most likely using flameproof or explosion proof concepts. Intrinsic safety is another approved protection concept under ATEX, but as previously stated is based upon limitation of energy to below the ignition energy of the flammable substance. In broad terms this equates to limitation of equipment power to a little over 1 Watt, so that would be a rather small alternator or starter motor. That's why intrinsic safety is limited to use on low power equipment such as instrumentation.