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[Cedric]

My mate cropped this image from a larger photo and sent it to me asking for details.

It was taken in March 1966 in Blyth.

I reckon it’s a II or early IIA on account of the fuel filler, and the wing lights were likely added for the rails.

Does anyone recognise it or know any more?

Chris

[Calum]

Not seen that one before. There is another being restored, that was trialled on the KWVR back in the day. I seem to remember the owner has posted on this forum? Reg **** UA or something? So they can probably help. I am sure theirs was the same setup with bolt on rail wheels rather than the now standard fold down wheels.

[22900013A]

The fuel filler location only tells us it's a four cylinder engine, not a six cylinder. They didn't move to the back on all models until 1974.  Deep sills and lamps in grille originally, but wouldn't like to guess if it's a II or IIA.

[Grandadrob]

Calum, I think the one you referred to was owned by my make some time back. He got it, very derelict from Eastnor Castle. But it was missing almost everything.  There were some traces of its past including the number plate. It was the one pictured alongside a platform.   Not sure who he sold it to.

Is the Loco a J27 ?

[Ray Clayton]

Hi
We had a Rail TK Bedford at Toton Depot, and a couple land rovers at Nottingham PW Depot, at Lenton.
We also worked with Permaquip at Giltbrook Nottingham, they did loads of PW rail vehicles of different sizes and for numerous jobs.
They where good trucks and worked well.

 

[island dormy]

  Hi guys

   Very interesting I work at a rail- forest logging museum over here in Canada when my Dormobile is finally finished that's my next project to make a rail rover, the only problem is our track is narrow gauge 36 inch. Its either going to have to have the axles shortened or rail wheels put under it and some kind of chain drive  maybe off the PTO.

  Victor

[Wittsend]

Wilson Worsdell's Class P3 (LNER J27) was a development of the NER J26 class. Eighty J27s were built between 1906 and 1909 by a number of suppliers, including Darlington Works. Twelve years later, a batch of twenty five J27s were built with superheaters and piston valves, followed by a final order of ten placed in December 1922 and built by the LNER at Darlington in 1923.

Post-war, the J27s stopped hauling goods trains but they continued to haul heavy mineral trains. Withdrawals began in March 1959, but in June 1966 thirty six were still putting in hard work hauling coal in County Durham and South Northumberland. The final J27s were withdrawn from the Blyth area where they operated the short trip workings between the nearby coalfield and shipping staithes. The last four in service, Nos 65811/79/82 and 84 were withdrawn in September 1967.

 

So the Rail Rover could have been either S2 or 2A 

[Grandadrob]

Did you know all that off the top of your head.....     much respect 

[Wittsend]

Sadly not ..... Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogle is my friend 

[Ray Clayton]

Alan
And here's me thinking that you was a train spotter in your younger days!!!

 

 

[Wittsend]

I was - I spotted loads of trains.

Still have my Ian Allan book.

If I were PM I'd bring back steam trains and have the heritage railways run them - the trains would then be on time, with decent and polite staff, with clean carriages and decent (Yorkshire) tea from the buffet.



 

[agg221]

Is the fact that it's 'lights in wings' relevant or a red herring?

Alec

[Wittsend]

I think it might be ...

These engines - the last 4 are said to have been (taken out of service) scrapped in September 1967 according to my blurb.

Now, depending on what source you believe, lights in the wings happened in 1968/69.

So unless there was time travel (Back to the Future) lights in the wings didn't happen in pre-1967.

Therefore it must have been some customisation/railway rule to have the lights modified

Below is a library pic of a J27 at about the same angle as the one in the topic starter post.
Or maybe we have misidentified the loco ?


  

[Grandadrob]

Gosh Alan, still got your books. My Dad binned all mine when I left home. Only found out later... much envy there.

[Grandadrob]

From what I can see the J27 was the loco in greatest numbers in Blyth. It was a heavy freight depot.
If you enlarge the photo the first three numbers are 650.   J27.