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Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« on: July 13, 2021, 06:12:03 PM »

We hear a lot about the oldies from '58,  :neener

Whats the youngest vehicle in the Club ( sparked by a comment on Facebook). As a starter, mine was made 30th September 1971, Despatched on 5th October.



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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2021, 10:38:09 PM »

I'll chuck my new WOMBAT portee 109 SIIA project into the hat: build date of 30-03-72. Last assigned chassis number of the 251- (109" utility) prefixes. Starting my research project in this thread: https://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/index.php/topic,7907.msg87519.html#msg87519

Are you looking for the youngest SII/SIIA specifically or the youngest vehicle all together? (eg SIII/Defender... Evoque/etc)
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2021, 11:18:20 PM »

^^^^ I was thinking Series 2A ?  No point in later models, some-one will just buy a new one...

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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2021, 11:55:59 PM »

ha ha - cheers Gene: I'll be really interested to see what you find out.
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2021, 07:38:33 AM »

I think we will find that it will be a Lightweight. They carried on building to the 2A spec well into the Series 3 era.
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2021, 07:57:53 AM »

Will have to work out where I have filed my logbook, but my series 2B FC is pretty young in terms of registration. May 1972 according to the DVLA vehicle checker.

Possibly as it’s a fire engine might not have been registered until the conversion was completed. No idea on the build date.

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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2021, 09:29:57 AM »

^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2021, 09:46:06 AM »

Big Ears our Dormobile first reg 26/5/72 but how long it took Martin Walters to build one no idea. From the chassis number I don't think it was the last of the export six pots built.

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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2021, 10:18:48 AM »

My 1971 2a is one of the last 88” basic home market chassis built. Registered late September 71. Somebody will have got a good deal on it when new as it was registered after the release of the new Series 3!

It is overdue a new chassis and bulkhead. It’s waiting for the new workshop to be built though!
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2021, 01:20:18 PM »

^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?

Can I suggest that we leave out CKD vehicles? Our VRO will finally fall on his sword if he has to work that lot out... Having worked on African CKD for Defender and been involved with Freelander in Thailand, I know that record keeping is abysmal! Just don't go there...
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2021, 02:49:23 PM »

^^^^ I was going to volunteer to fly out, with a notebook and camera !  I'd settle for flights and invoiced expenses ?

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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2021, 06:38:12 AM »

Mine is a October 71 registered SWB truck cab. I believe it was a truck cab originally and a quick search of the ‘KGT’ reg indicates it was registered in SW London area.
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2021, 07:49:34 AM »

I suppose thinking about this, we should be applying build date, not first registration date. This would get past the issues like Marshall ambulance builds for example.
Just a guess, but a London registered 2A is probably more likely to be a fleet vehicle rather than privately owned. SW London isn't the most obvious place to see a SWB pickup I'd guess unless its been ordered for one of the Commons or Parks. (Or perhaps a P&T vehicle)?
Late registration of fleet stuff is very common still even in the age of widespread contract hire.
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2021, 07:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Genem on July 14, 2021, 09:29:57 AM
^^^ That would fit, the Marshall Ambulances seem to have taken up to two years from chassis production to "Date in Service". We probably need two levels, when the chassis was made and when it was "finished". The same will apply to CKD kits ?

Can I suggest that we leave out CKD vehicles? Our VRO will finally fall on his sword if he has to work that lot out... Having worked on African CKD for Defender and been involved with Freelander in Thailand, I know that record keeping is abysmal! Just don't go there...

Aw!! spoilsport!!  But I see your point.

My SADF  2BFC was registered in 2011 after a long battle by the then VRO and his team as a 1971 production -- the clincher being the engine number/suffix.

A couple of years later I met Jan Vorster who built the Overlander motorhomes on ex-SADF radio trucks and he was of the opinion that the SADF had regular deliveries each year of the 2BFC. Mine is no.328 of a range that a lot of official sources used to say did not exist, nowadays amended to "no records available". I mentioned the problems getting it registered and the lack of UK records for later post S1 CKD builds and he said that he was not surprised, at least in regards to the SA vehicles as they were being exported to SA in spite of the embargo due to apartheid.

I mentioned the chassis number and asked about the total numbers. He said the SADF had only a fraction of the total number and his personal Overlander was a few numbers higher than mine. There are claims out on the net that over 440 is the highest number known.[of 332 variant -RHD CKD]

My log book says first registered in 1994. Jan said this was wrong as they were built a year or two earlier than that, and what I had would have been the registration when it changed owners, or alternatively when the licence category was changed.
The Newcastle registration I have shows that it was registered [presumably to a Belgian missionary type from the docs] as a "mobile clinic" -- a tax saving dodge from way back. I also got a hand drawn map of the CKGR and KutseGR which I think are game reserves in Botswana. It must have been mainly accommodation for him as the mileage was not high at under 14000.
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Re: Whats our Youngest vehicle ?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2021, 07:23:50 PM »

Yep, I agree build date is the important date. I was surprised myself to see SW London for registration but I may be wrong it was a quick search. I’ve always believed it to have been a farmers vehicle from registration but I suppose a more detailed search of history will throw up more concrete facts.

By the way what’s P&T? (I’m probably about to make myself look daft 😂)
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