Post by: Ndrwdz on July 05, 2021, 09:03:59 AM
This is to make it clear that we include Northern Ireland as part of the country.
Andrew
Post by: GlenAnderson on July 05, 2021, 10:53:03 AM
Post by: Wittsend on July 05, 2021, 11:12:57 AM
Is it April 1st ???
Does someone with government connections make
(What about all those cars with the blue EU flag on the number plate ?)
:thud
Another great forum topic for people to get their teeth into to rant & rave >:D
(keep it clean)
:foil hat
Post by: Matt Reeves on July 05, 2021, 11:24:45 AM
More pointless change just for the sake of it. Tokenism and jingoism in equal measure.
Exactly! Who cares?
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 05, 2021, 11:35:10 AM
Exactly! Who cares?
?? French police who can give you an on-the-spot fine for not having an authorised numberplate?
Post by: AlexB on July 05, 2021, 11:39:16 AM
So mine will stay as they are
Post by: Worf on July 05, 2021, 12:28:51 PM
Post by: Genem on July 05, 2021, 12:52:26 PM
If the former then that's an additional cost of £? per vehicle and an afternoon of faffing about that they failed to mention when describing the benefits of Brexit.
Post by: Sunny Jim on July 05, 2021, 12:54:10 PM
It should now, of course, be illegal to have the 'EU' stars displayed, as this would be confusing. For the number plates of modern cars, it is just a cheap sticker that is required so not a major issue. It is interesting that the 'UK' bit is to 'include' NI when it has just been ruled in court that the Government have broken both the Act of Union and the Good Friday Agreement (although it was deemed lawful as Parliament did it).
I wonder how much of an issue this will really be, and whether foreign police will care (apart from parts of France)? I have only ever taken my car which has no identifier on the number plates within the British Isles, and no-one cared in the Republic of Ireland nor the Channel Islands.
James May: "France is just a country you drive through to get to Italy" and "A bunch of lamb burning communists". Go through Belgium of the Netherlands instead (or go via Brittany).
Sunny Jim
Post by: SirAmikVase on July 05, 2021, 12:57:56 PM
Post by: Genem on July 05, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
...and poor Halfords, all that stock of stickers that will have to be binned.
:shakeinghead
Post by: Worf on July 05, 2021, 01:01:49 PM
Back in the day the likes of the AA/RAC used to post you a free sticker when you informed them you were going abroad, maybe they still do?
Post by: Wittsend on July 05, 2021, 01:40:34 PM
As I won't be travelling abroad I'm not bothered. :cheers
Post by: AlexB on July 05, 2021, 01:59:14 PM
Post by: timfoster on July 05, 2021, 02:28:25 PM
(reminds self that *&%^$ marching season is coming around again here, joy...)
Post by: AlexB on July 05, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 05, 2021, 02:42:42 PM
was it a real paper or just the Mail ?
It was the Telegraph Motoring Club :tiphat
It's also in Auto Express (https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/driving-abroad/355463/gb-stickers-no-longer-valid-driving-abroad) as well as other 'newspapers'
Post by: Genem on July 05, 2021, 03:37:19 PM
You dont need to change anything. Just an additional "UK" sticker "somewhere on the vehicle" Less than £2 on ebay.
True enough but its still my £ and time being wasted to no good purpose.
Post by: AlexB on July 05, 2021, 03:45:14 PM
and I won't be.
France in a few weeks on grandparent duty (fingers crossed, in the Ami)
Spain (the Picos) in the Dormobile next year
Post by: rustylandrovers on July 05, 2021, 05:01:10 PM
If the former then that's an additional cost of £? per vehicle and an afternoon of faffing about that they failed to mention when describing the benefits of Brexit.
It's almost as if Brexit wasn't actually designed to benefit the people. I'm shocked.
Post by: rosinante on July 05, 2021, 05:10:03 PM
Chris
Post by: Smokey 11a on July 05, 2021, 05:18:43 PM
Post by: Clifford Pope on July 05, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Back in the day the likes of the AA/RAC used to post you a free sticker when you informed them you were going abroad, maybe they still do?
They used to be proper badges, not stickers.
Post by: DogDave on July 05, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
Anyone know why it was ever a GB sticker as we have been the United Kingdom since 1801 which must predate the stickers?
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 05, 2021, 09:12:33 PM
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_vehicle_registration_code)
Post by: Gertie on July 05, 2021, 09:14:33 PM
Exactly! Who cares?
Me for one. My passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. Should always have been UK. But we are in danger of politics here.
Post by: oddjob on July 05, 2021, 10:29:46 PM
was it a real paper or just the Mail ?
:-X
We’ll I’m hopefully off euroleafing to the Pyrenees in two weeks so I’ll dust off my old metal GB plate regardless. I usually take it off once away from the ports anyway as I hope it makes it harder for the speed cameras and traffic wardens to know where to send the tickets. :neener
Post by: gatekrash on July 05, 2021, 10:31:09 PM
A friend reports seeing a cop elsewhere in Europe peel the GB sticker off a truck then walk round to the cab to fine the driver....
...and poor Halfords, all that stock of stickers that will have to be binned.
:shakeinghead
He'd do well to peel it off my S2, I've got an original 1950's white and black painted metal GB plate rivetted on the back !
Post by: Genem on July 06, 2021, 11:55:39 AM
:neener
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 06, 2021, 12:05:31 PM
Post by: Wittsend on July 06, 2021, 12:11:58 PM
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/gallery/technical/images/GB_plate.jpg)
A UK plate with the club logo would make a good shop item ???
Post by: Exile on July 06, 2021, 05:11:22 PM
Otherwise you'll get us all doing it. :-X
Post by: Noddy on July 07, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
Alec
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 07, 2021, 10:26:21 AM
The whole point is that the government have asked the UN to recognise 'UK' instead of 'GB' from September this year.
Post by: Wittsend on July 07, 2021, 11:34:30 AM
(Forget about the political reasons behind this - there's nothing you can post or do on this forum to change that. Write to your MPs.)
I think the UN are obliged to recognise the change of our designation.
Countries come and go, they change their names - e.g. North Macedonia.
Once a country is recognised by the UN, that's it.
Precedence has been set and if the UK government apply for a name change then it will happen.
What people need to do is protest and make sure the UK gov don't apply, change their minds.
Meanwhile the sticker and plate makers will be thinking it's Christmas come early.
One is minded of James Bond's Aston Martin with the revolving number plates.
Maybe something like that for the national identifier ???
Like the destination board on the front of a bus.
Any prudent traveller will be checking before they leave our shores as to what paper work and things they need to take with them. The advice is changing all the time and this name change is but one possible.
Mind how you go..... and get writing your letters (http://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/Smileys/wittsends/write.gif)
Post by: gatekrash on July 07, 2021, 11:47:57 AM
Once we were Her Majesty's Coastguard (and officially we still are)
But now when you call in to our ops room all you get is "UK Coastguard" and all our vehicles have dropped the HM bit on the logos.
Going the same way as when HM Customs ended up as Border Farce :P
Post by: Wittsend on July 07, 2021, 12:07:49 PM
It happens all the time. Organisations are initialised and then gain more letters to their name.
Or - when there's a cock-up, change the name - e.g. Calder Hall - Winscale - Sellafield and so on :shakeinghead
Logos change, letter headings, Names on the vehicle fleet.
All good business for stationers and sign makers.
The Devil makes work for idle hands :shakeinghead
The analogy is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
All these "jobsworths" should be sorting the real problems of the day.
No - let's change our name and that will make things better.
Post by: Worf on July 07, 2021, 01:20:39 PM
The following year they changed it back again at probably the same cost :stars
Post by: Exile on July 07, 2021, 05:13:58 PM
I shall.....
Go and make a cup of tea and watch the football. :coffee
Post by: Wittsend on July 07, 2021, 07:38:53 PM
Remember Royal Mail becoming Consignia in 2001. Cost £2 million.
The following year they changed it back again at probably the same cost :stars
Only lost £2 million - someone goofed up there, it should have cost a lot more.
In fact the Post Office is but one example of ineptitude (and dishonesty).
It's a fact that emails are ousting the sending of "old fashioned" letters and you can do more on the internet in paying bills and the like.
And yet we see the rise of Amazon and online shopping - where stuff is delivered to your door by a white van.
The Post Office (I still think of them as that) have a whole fleet nationwide of red vans which can/could deliver to every address in
What a loss of a business opportunity :thud
Posting as an ex postman :postman_pat
Post by: Worf on July 07, 2021, 08:32:57 PM
Post by: DogDave on July 07, 2021, 08:42:33 PM
The Post Office (I still think of them as that) have a whole fleet nationwide of red vans which can/could deliver to every address inGreat Britain and Northern Irelandthe UK.
What a loss of a business opportunity :thud
Posting as an ex postman :postman_pat
Quite a few things I order on Amazon are delivered by my Royal Mail postie in a red van - not all by any means and not the next day stuff but a bit.
I prefer it as he does actually know how to find the house unlike half the delivery firms…………
Post by: Genem on July 07, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
Only lost £2 million - someone goofed up there, it should have cost a lot more.
In fact the Post Office is but one example of ineptitude (and dishonesty).
It's a fact that emails are ousting the sending of "old fashioned" letters and you can do more on the internet in paying bills and the like.
And yet we see the rise of Amazon and online shopping - where stuff is delivered to your door by a white van.
The Post Office (I still think of them as that) have a whole fleet nationwide of red vans which can/could deliver to every address inGreat Britain and Northern Irelandthe UK.
What a loss of a business opportunity :thud
Posting as an ex postman :postman_pat
Letting commercial operators take on parcel delivery, an area that can make a decent profit was a very deliberate act aiming to cripple the public service Post Office, leaving it to soldier on without the profitable business but still be lumbered with requirement to deliver to every address. The nonsense now is that we can get 3 or more courier vans a day turning up, usually very sparsely loaded. The inefficiency is vast - but you and I are paying for it so the shareholders of DHL, Hermes and the rest turn a profit. As you say Wittsend, that one red van could do the job...
Post by: ChrisJC on July 07, 2021, 09:15:44 PM
Chris.
Post by: Wittsend on July 07, 2021, 09:36:02 PM
Look how they make posties wear shorts :thud
Post by: geoff on July 08, 2021, 11:09:41 AM
In fact the Post Office is but one example of ineptitude (and dishonesty).
A shame but true :shakeinghead
Reminds me of our local " Council " run leisure centre which was to close due to huge losses .... miracle of miracles a private company took over the running and quickly made rather large profits on an ongoing basis !
Post by: GlenAnderson on July 08, 2021, 11:18:25 AM
It's a bit unfair to compare the Royal Mail to other more modern operators. Generations of labour laws and union activity mean that it is very expensive to employ a Postie, whereas Amazon manipulate 'the system' to keep their staff costs very very low. So the Royal Mail ultimately cannot compete as the playing field is far from level!
Chris.
At the risk of triggering Alan’s “political lock”, it’s not the fault of the Post Office that their staff are effectively unionised, it’s the fault of the neoliberal agenda followed by four decades of government that’s allowed unregulated competition from companies that employ people in unfavourable conditions, and a market where consumers constantly pick lowest price in preference to quality of service.
IMHO, better to level the playing field up, than down.
Post by: Genem on July 08, 2021, 12:42:03 PM
Post by: Alan Drover on July 08, 2021, 03:02:48 PM
Post by: Calum on July 10, 2021, 11:45:38 AM
Letting commercial operators take on parcel delivery, an area that can make a decent profit was a very deliberate act aiming to cripple the public service Post Office, leaving it to soldier on without the profitable business but still be lumbered with requirement to deliver to every address. The nonsense now is that we can get 3 or more courier vans a day turning up, usually very sparsely loaded. The inefficiency is vast - but you and I are paying for it so the shareholders of DHL, Hermes and the rest turn a profit. As you say Wittsend, that one red van could do the job...
Indeed, and a lot of people seem to forget that when they grumble about the price of Royal Mail services. The other delivery companies can pick and choose to a certain extent.
As for the Post Office, the whole postmaster scandal has been absolutely unforgivable.
Post by: Genem on July 10, 2021, 10:09:53 PM
Post by: crumbly65 on July 11, 2021, 10:37:20 AM
^^^ Hear hear, listening to the recent radio series on the issue I'm left thinking that a number of senior managers in the Post Office should now be in Jail, alongside the CEO and Board of Southern Water, who have been deliberately dumping raw sewage into rivers for years as a profit motivated business decision.Strongly agree with all said here! The Postmaster scandal is a national disgrace (highlighted for years by Private Eye), and there are people, moving onto lucrative jobs, who should be in jail or banned from active public powerful positions…..
Post by: geoff on July 11, 2021, 12:40:10 PM
Martin Bashir will only be the tip of the iceberg :tiphat
Post by: Wittsend on July 11, 2021, 01:55:14 PM
Tip of the week:
Make sure your new UK plates are not too a permanent fixture :shakeinghead
I have a feeling that they will soon have to be ENG plates the way things are going ;)
(http://www.series2club.co.uk/new_forum/Smileys/wittsends/GB_plate.gif)
Post by: oilstain on July 11, 2021, 02:07:20 PM
auction: #293373949148:shakeinghead
Post by: geoff on July 11, 2021, 02:17:35 PM
CYM plates have been on sale for decades now.
ENG plates, might get some popularity traction if they win the football ? :whistle
UK plates, lets hope we get some decent looking enamel ones as made in days of yore :RHD
Post by: Calum on July 11, 2021, 05:23:31 PM
CYM plates have been on sale for decades now.
ENG plates, might get some popularity traction if they win the football ? :whistle
UK plates, lets hope we get some decent looking enamel ones as made in days of yore :RHD
A friend has a pressed GB plate on his 80" which has "pays de galles" on it under the GB lettering. It's brilliant. I've never seen another.
Post by: Wittsend on July 11, 2021, 05:27:32 PM
Once they've decided what we are going to be called.
Post by: Ndrwdz on July 11, 2021, 06:37:22 PM
New items for the club shop ???
Once they've decided what we are going to be called.
I've already started a conversation with our printer.
Andrew
Club Shop Manager
Post by: oddjob on July 14, 2021, 10:43:23 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qbxhs4N/4-FFA6-BB5-F26-F-433-A-8016-8-C4376-D889-D9.jpg)
Post by: Jonny72 on September 22, 2021, 05:48:51 PM
Post by: oddjob on September 22, 2021, 06:37:34 PM
:thud
Post by: Alice B on September 24, 2021, 06:15:57 PM
Post by: autorover1 on September 24, 2021, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: Wittsend on September 24, 2021, 11:22:38 PM
UK stickers after Sept 28th ...
Post by: A-Ro on September 25, 2021, 12:12:04 AM
Post by: Exile on September 25, 2021, 11:48:14 AM
Please don't politicise this - it is what it is.
Couldn't agree more.
Post by: AlexB on September 25, 2021, 12:53:17 PM