Post by: Marky Harvey on April 25, 2021, 06:38:19 PM
Just wondered if anyone could recommend a dial gauge suitable for helping with my engine rebuild?
Thanks
Post by: AlexB on April 25, 2021, 06:47:02 PM
auction: #384066491545not used / familiar with it but it should do the job you want it to
Post by: TimV on April 25, 2021, 06:58:28 PM
Any DTI would do, I have used RDG tools https://www.rdgtools.co.uk/ for my precision measuring equipment.
Post by: AlexB on April 25, 2021, 07:16:31 PM
That loos like just a holder Alex!
"Dial Test Indicator DTI Gauge + Flexible Magnetic Base Holder Stand"
- from the actual listing !!
Post by: Kernowcam on April 25, 2021, 08:05:24 PM
Post by: Davidss on April 25, 2021, 08:20:03 PM
That looks like just a holder Alex!
"Dial Test Indicator DTI Gauge + Flexible Magnetic Base Holder Stand"
- from the actual listing !!
That means it's a 'Holder Stand' that can be used for a DTI.
Read the pictures, please.
Post by: Kernowcam on April 25, 2021, 08:38:21 PM
Post by: AlexB on April 25, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
That means it's a 'Holder Stand' that can be used for a DTI.
Read the pictures, please.
I am sure that the description would carry more weight than a picture, as far as trading standards go David So "read the words" would be more apt.
I agree that it is for a holder
Post by: Craig T on April 26, 2021, 11:00:06 AM
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx
What are you using the dial indicator for, just finding TDC and maybe the peak of the cam lift? I have rebuilt a number of 2286 engine and don't recall ever needing one.
Craig.
Post by: Calum on April 26, 2021, 12:43:53 PM
Another good company I have used in the past is....
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx
What are you using the dial indicator for, just finding TDC and maybe the peak of the cam lift? I have rebuilt a number of 2286 engine and don't recall ever needing one.
Craig.
Also used for measuring crankshaft end float.
As with all measuring tools of this ilk I go for old tools of reputable manufacture. If looked after well they are far better quality than most cheap modern stuff. However, pretty much every cheap DTI available is more than accurate enough for the uses it'll get on restoring an engine/Land Rover. A decent stand is probably more important than the DTI itself to be honest, in my personal experience.
Post by: AlexB on April 26, 2021, 01:07:07 PM
Another good company I have used in the past is....
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx
What are you using the dial indicator for, just finding TDC and maybe the peak of the cam lift? I have rebuilt a number of 2286 engine and don't recall ever needing one.
Craig.
I suspect that this is the first engine rebuild, so why not do it by the book (or forum !) and get it right first time ?
Post by: Marky Harvey on April 26, 2021, 03:05:35 PM
Another good company I have used in the past is....
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx
What are you using the dial indicator for, just finding TDC and maybe the peak of the cam lift? I have rebuilt a number of 2286 engine and don't recall ever needing one.
Craig.
Yep just using it for the cam lift.
Post by: Craig T on April 26, 2021, 03:12:03 PM
Last engine I rebuilt was a Rover V8 but the timing pulleys on that only have one position they can go on so you can't get it wrong and you can't adjust it if it is out. Some performance engines have a Vernier pulley that can be adjusted then locked in place to get the valve timing exactly where you want it.
My Chevy V8 has a three position cam pulley so you can set it 3° advanced, 3° retarded or in the stock position. As the cam was ground for the best performance in the stock position I used that slot.
Still a useful thing to have in the garage though. Can be used for wheel bearing float, gearbox rebuilds, etc.
Craig.
Post by: geoff on April 26, 2021, 10:49:28 PM
Only curious as I'm not sure the cam timing is that adjustable is it? Been a while since I rebuilt a 2286 to be fair.
Land Rover supplied the cam sprocket for the series 1 and 2 with 6 keyways and each key position allowed for a different timing setting so there was a fair amount of ( fine ) adjustment built in.
Post by: Wittsend on April 27, 2021, 02:07:28 PM
You just get the stand - you need to provide your own gauge - the eBay description must have got mixed up in the Chinese translation.
It is a sturdy, strong bit of kit, well made. Well worth the money IMHO.
Post by: Kernowcam on April 27, 2021, 06:34:50 PM
Post by: Marky Harvey on April 28, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
My dial gauge stand came this morning - from the eBay link ^^^
You just get the stand - you need to provide your own gauge - the eBay description must have got mixed up in the Chinese translation.
It is a sturdy, strong bit of kit, well made. Well worth the money IMHO.
Thanks.. I’ll order one
Post by: Kernowcam on April 29, 2021, 08:57:06 PM
Post by: Marky Harvey on April 29, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
Post by: Craig T on April 30, 2021, 12:36:59 PM
I did once and got a 1/3rd scale one! :-X
Saying that, it does work well and has proved useful a few times in more restricted places.
Craig.
Post by: Marky Harvey on April 30, 2021, 01:55:19 PM
Post by: Marky Harvey on May 07, 2021, 06:53:54 AM
Ordered a dial gauge and stand. Quite please except on the Mitutoyo one that I borrowed, the gauge is mounted via the bracket on the back. The gauge I bought has the bracket but neither the gauge nor the stand came with the thumb screw and spindle to mount it this way. Not sure if this part is available anywhere.
Mark
Post by: Kernowcam on May 07, 2021, 07:38:23 AM
Post by: scottuh1 on May 07, 2021, 07:57:14 AM
Another good company I have used in the past is....
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/default.aspx
What are you using the dial indicator for, just finding TDC and maybe the peak of the cam lift? I have rebuilt a number of 2286 engine and don't recall ever needing one.
Craig.
Me too, never used one ever. Each to their own I suppose. 👍
Post by: Kernowcam on May 07, 2021, 04:57:32 PM
I like to be able to see a gauge and measure things.
I think I have done tdc with a fuel pressure gauge.
Post by: Calum on May 08, 2021, 08:31:34 AM
Small finger clocks as shown above by Craggle (the one with the yellow face) usually use a dovetail system on the back where you can attach it (these usually come one or two different attachments). Your stand does appear to have a dovetail so should clamp a finger clock happily but also has a hole drilled through so should probably also clamp the round section on the bottom of a DTI (provided it is the right diameter)